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Old 08-25-2021, 02:29 PM
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Default Any guesses on this Rogers outer ply?

Can anyone tell me what this outer ply would be?
Going to try to match it or at least try to match.
For a restoration but like to match snare ply.

Thanks for any help
Wayne
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Old 08-25-2021, 04:21 PM
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Default Re: Any guesses on this Rogers outer ply?

I believe you are asking about matching the color on other drums and that this snare is stained and not wrapped.
If it is stained, take the drum to a furniture restoration shop and have them select a good match using a gel stain such as Old Masters. I build furniture for my church and once I started to use gel stains, I will never use regular stains again. The gel stain is applied with a clean cloth and is 100% easier and faster to achieve a great coating. I usually apply a second coat which develops a richer, deeper color. It also dries in about 24 hours. Ask the person at the store to give you a demonstration and some tips. Finish it off with a clear coat which can also come as a gel coating or regular polyurethane if the manufacturer also recommends it.
I will attach a picture of a small coffee table which a friend asked me to build a few years ago to match an existing table. I used the gel stain and top clear coat on this piece. The table has inlaid stone slate and has a slight touch of antiquing applied to the edges.
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Old 08-25-2021, 06:17 PM
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Arrow Re: Any guesses on this Rogers outer ply?

Looks like Birch.
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Old 08-26-2021, 09:17 AM
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Default Re: Any guesses on this Rogers outer ply?

Looks like walnut to me.
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Old 08-26-2021, 10:55 AM
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Default Re: Any guesses on this Rogers outer ply?

Not without a picture that is closer and in focus.
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Old 08-26-2021, 12:22 PM
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Default Re: Any guesses on this Rogers outer ply?

Yeah, that's a good point. Better pictures would help. It kinda looks like the shell has been refinished...possibly stained....the badge looks more worn than the surrounding shell...Most older drums had some kind of shiny varnish as a top coat....and the inside lip of that grommet might not be "folded" in on itself as it should be. If it is a refinished shell, then the wood could be stain over maple...can't be sure without more/better pics. Something tells me that this drum has been worked over.

EDIT: Ya know...I don't know a lot about old Rogers stuff, but those tension rods sure seem close to being maxed out. Could this shell have been cut down I wonder? Really need to see the bearing edges and interior shots of this drum.
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Old 08-26-2021, 03:39 PM
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Default Re: Any guesses on this Rogers outer ply?

Thanks for the replies,
I try to load better quality pictures but this site does not permit it.
Sorry for the quality.
The story on this is a kit I picked up that had a greyish wrap that looked like Grey ripple but wasn't. When I took off the wrap the snare was like you see in previous photos. I liked the look of it but decided to wrap in a Gold Pearl wrap. The snare I taped the wrap and the rest of kit I glued with 3m. Well it looked good for awhile but the snare was the only drum that didn't end up rippling, I believe the wrap reacted to the glue.
Long story made short I removed all wrap again and now thing I am going to just try to match snare outside ply. Hence my question.
I believe the ply is not stained for some reason I would think I would see splatter spots. Well here are more pictures in the best quality that it will allow of the edges and stripped snare. Hope this helps.
Thanks Dudley for the great info , might go that route.
Green Glass and O-lugs thanks for your info.
I was actually wondering if it is Mahogany just because I didn't think Rogers used Birch or Walnut on their shells.
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Old 08-26-2021, 03:40 PM
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Old 08-26-2021, 07:22 PM
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Default Re: Any guesses on this Rogers outer ply?

...........I believe the ply is not stained for some reason I would think I would see splatter spots............

The splatter spots that you mention sounds to me to be the result of using a typical 'runny' stain. The gel stain eliminates any such splattering result. The gel stain is similar to pudding consistency and easily controlled as it is rubbed onto, into and across the wood surface. It's especially easy on small areas like this drum. On a larger area such as 4ft X 8ft panels it gets tricky because of over lapping sections as I progress across the panel.
Of course the gel can still drip if reasonable care is not taken by having too much on the cloth while applying to the wood, just take your time. Once you see it applied you'll discover for yourself.
I wish you great success.
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Old 08-27-2021, 09:55 AM
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Default Re: Any guesses on this Rogers outer ply?

It's DEFINITELY NOT mahogany. Mahogany has a completely different and more open grain. I can't explain why it is the color it is, but looking at the edges of the plies, I would have to go with it being a 6-ply maple shell.

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It just wouldn't make sense for them to put an outer veneer of different wood than the rest of the plies if it was intended to be a wrapped shell. It would make sense to make the outer ply different from the rest if it was to be the finish ply.
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