Old 12-09-2023, 12:36 AM
kos22us kos22us is offline
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Default slingerland hi hat question
I recently picked up a 1966 Gene Krupa wmp slingerland set ( Just the drums) I need a hi hat, I looked at the catalogs for 65 & 67 (66 catalog not listed) both say hi hat 804 , but every single period correct (flush base) stand I find all say 803 stamped on underside of pedal, I mean 50 of them between ebay & reverb all the same thing, what I am missing here ? any info would be greatly appreciated thanks
Old 12-09-2023, 08:14 AM
Rik_Everglade Rik_Everglade is offline
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Default Re: slingerland hi hat question
I'm not finding enough references to tell either way. Is one a "direct pull"? And the other a single tube with a sideways/sliding pull? What's that style called?
Old 12-09-2023, 11:30 AM
thin shell thin shell is offline
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Default Re: slingerland hi hat question
The 803 and 804 used the exact same footboard casting. The 803 came first, around '57 and the 804 was a new and improved model, showing up in the 63A catalog. It is not a stamp, but is actually part of the mold for the pedal. There was no reason to have separate molds for two different models that used the exact same part. That number on the pedal casting is there more for the workers in the factory, than for the customer.
You will never find a 804 with an 804 casting number on the pedal, because they never made them. Any of the 804's you have seen will be correct.

Edit: I went back and checked for later Slingerland hi hat models on ebay and every 806 Dynamo auction that showed the bottom of the footboard showed a part number of 803 as well.

Last edited by thin shell; 12-17-2023 at 08:55 PM.
Old 12-16-2023, 08:09 PM
jmcohen jmcohen is offline
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Default Re: slingerland hi hat question
Congratulations on picking up those drums!

As an aside, many of us have tried the flat-based hi hats in order to assemble a legit vintage set, only to discover that the flat-based stands can really wobble. Depending on your style, and I usually play with my heal up and the ball of my foot bouncing on the pedal between pedal presses, the stand can wobble A LOT.

I certainly don’t want to discourage your search. Just giving you an old-fashioned heads-up.


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