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Old 07-22-2020, 12:09 PM
Mr.Toast Mr.Toast is offline
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I thought I'd share some updated pics of the BDP kit I am working on. So far, no extraordinary measures have been needed. I was able to get this far without removing lugs, just carefully masking off around each one. I much prefer this when the lugs and wrap are not too bad. It alleviates the chance of stripping out a screw, keeps the drum "factory tight," and the strain on your hands and wrists is reduced because the lug is held in place by the shell giving you much better leverage than holding it with your other hand. The lugs and hardware on the toms and snare all cleaned up really nicely, just a little sparkle in the chrome in some spots, but nothing left that I would call pitting at all. The wrap got a quick buff with Meguiar's PlastX and the hoops got the usual treatment...mask off the inlay, lightly sand the wood and repaint with several coats of satin black paint.

All that is left to clean up is the bass drum. I removed the Ludwig rail mount (for now at least), and polished up the spurs and some of the Swivo hardware. My question now is...do I do something with the fugly interior of the bass drum? It has obviously already been buggered up by the black paint job, so do I freshen up the black paint job, or should I try to paint it to match the original flat gray? Unfortunately all the washers were painted over with the black. To make it look Rogers respectable, I would need to strip, replace, or maybe just flip over the washers. If I am feeling particularly OCD, after the flat gray paint I could even have a reproduction paper label made. I have a friend in Portland that has a company called Retro Mechanical Labs (rmlfx.com). He is a flat out genius and makes the coolest distortion boxes for guitar or synths you will ever see. They look like they were made in 1950 right down to the faux-aged labels and instruction manuals. He could mimic a Rogers Cleveland era tag easily. Disclaimer: I would never try to pass it off as original.

Anyway...is the bass drum worth the extra effort, or do the four extra holes from the rail, make it a moot point?

Have a great day everyone.
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Old 07-22-2020, 07:52 PM
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Default Re: It's a Holiday holiday...update

Nice ! I would paint gray and good idea flipping the washers, it's also good that with that finish, the holes from the rail won't be too noticeable, that Ludwig tom sure matches well,I didn't even notice at first

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Old 07-28-2020, 01:27 PM
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Thanks for the input Myk. I agree that the Ludwig tom is a pretty close match. I have considered finding a BDP Ludwig floor tom which should be a few hundred cheaper than a Rogers and leaving the rail and using both up toms. But in the end it would be mismatched players grade kit that may not appeal to many.

I did take the next step toward making the bass drum Rogers respectable. I sanded lightly and used Krylon chalk finish paint. The color is just a shade lighter than it should be but it's pretty close.
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Old 07-31-2020, 07:14 AM
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Nice work, that looks way better, I don't see why people painted drums black
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Old 07-31-2020, 09:00 AM
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I think that the black paint went hand in hand with the despicable fad of removing resonant heads and hardware. Why? Hell if I know.
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Old 07-31-2020, 10:41 AM
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I think that the black paint went hand in hand with the despicable fad of removing resonant heads and hardware. Why? Hell if I know.
I saved a whole kit put together of mid 60's Gretsch and Ludwig Club Date drums that were all painted black and missing the reso heads! I've found lonely orphans to round out and complete each set so I'm ending up with 2 whole mid 60's kits!

I'm halfway though restoring the Gretsch kit and I have a hard time shutting up about it . I'm in the early stages of working on the Club Date kit and just picking up a BD tomorrow to round out the shells needed.
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Old 08-01-2020, 12:08 PM
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If you choose not to keep the rail mount you can fill the hole with chrome plated carriage bolts,to me it does not detract from the drums look.
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Old 08-01-2020, 12:46 PM
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I know it has been said on here before, but it always makes me laugh to think of the enormous piles of reso side hardware out there somewhere in the landfills of America.

The only thing worse was the (hopefully local) trend of drilling extra vent holes to improve the sound of drums. I've been told the story by two different guys in the Cleveland area that they drilled extra vent holes in their shells on the advice from a "pro drum tech." One was a nice German made birch Sonor kit, what a shame. I did buy and flip the kit for a small profit, it had three extra vent holes drilled in each shell including the snare. I put vent grommets in the holes which helped the appearance a little. For what it's worth...the kit did sound really nice, especially the ventilated snare. It has been chosen from a stable of snares to be used on several recordings at a local studio. So maybe they were on to something???
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