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Forum: Vintage Drums 11-28-2021, 10:21 AM
Replies: 19
Views: 406
Posted By BEC
Re: Transition badged Super Ludwig imposter?

I can't say.
Anything can/could happen post factory, as many posters here are opining. ( Although flanges on grommets are pretty slim evidence for authenticity of a drum, I think.)
Forum: Vintage Drums 11-27-2021, 12:34 PM
Replies: 19
Views: 406
Posted By BEC
Re: Transition badged Super Ludwig imposter?

From the location of the tone control and badge, the shell appears to be one of the last (perhaps) of the WFL shells.
Ludwig switched badge location mid trans-badge era.
FWIW; I have trans badge...
Forum: Vintage Drums 11-26-2021, 01:07 PM
Replies: 19
Views: 406
Posted By BEC
Re: Transition badged Super Ludwig imposter?

Lots of experts out there I see?
One thing I don't think I've ever seen, but I'm only 70, is a faked COB Super Ludwig.
Forum: Vintage Drums 11-25-2021, 01:25 PM
Replies: 19
Views: 406
Posted By BEC
Re: Transition badged Super Ludwig imposter?

I read the thread on DFO. Drum looks good to me. Everything's in the correct place for late 50's brass isn't it?
Forum: Vintage Drums 11-08-2021, 11:37 AM
Replies: 3
Views: 159
Posted By BEC
Re: More boom on a 20" bass drum?

Whatever the extra cost, and it probably wasn't much back then, that's a rare bass drum. The low end must be huge!
Forum: Vintage Drums 10-24-2021, 11:40 AM
Replies: 3
Views: 273
Posted By BEC
Re: Market Contraction? What Say You All?

I think the economy is cruising right along....I think 1950's and 1960's collectors are aging out of the market and prices are dropping for common drums and sets.
The top of the line drums have...
Forum: Vintage Drums 10-09-2021, 11:42 AM
Replies: 5
Views: 562
Posted By BEC
Re: New Citrus Mod Already in Clearance

Something lower than retail?
Forum: Vintage Drums 10-07-2021, 02:02 PM
Replies: 5
Views: 562
Posted By BEC
Re: New Citrus Mod Already in Clearance

Well, that's not a clearance price....Ludwig makes prototype kits y'know; I'm guessing this may be one.
And even if it's not, that's not a "sale price" for a classic maple three piece.
Forum: Vintage Drums 09-30-2021, 01:35 PM
Replies: 80
Views: 4,422
Posted By BEC
Re: Where is everyone?

I'm with amosguy......
Forum: Vintage Drums 09-20-2021, 04:00 PM
Replies: 11
Views: 753
Posted By BEC
Re: Citrus Mod: now you see it, now you don't

About five years ago I sold my Citrus Jazz fest I acquired from Liam Mulholland back in the 90's. When purchased it was the only one known to collectors.
Since then several have appeared which were...
Forum: Vintage Drums 09-08-2021, 01:29 PM
Replies: 17
Views: 843
Posted By BEC
Re: Observation from my friend

DFO staffers nailing Ludwig and praising DW got old, I signed out.
Forum: Vintage Drums 07-27-2021, 01:05 PM
Replies: 13
Views: 1,281
Posted By BEC
Re: Please help me identify a Ludwig 6.5x14 Black Beauty

Mr. Gier is a statistician, and currently is THE word on serial numbers!
I recommend his book.
Forum: Vintage Drums 05-22-2021, 01:32 PM
Replies: 6
Views: 552
Posted By BEC
Re: Oddball Ludwig Jazzfest - 2 badges

I had a WFL "masonite shell" snare drum with about 7 wfl badges on the inside shoring up the grommet. Apparently, not unusual for back then?
Forum: Vintage Drums 05-15-2021, 03:36 PM
Replies: 19
Views: 1,492
Posted By BEC
Re: Chicago Show

I saw two Gretsch Gladstones for sale. One with 3 way tuning and the key and key mount, one with two way tuning and no key or key mount. Tempting stuff!
Forum: Vintage Drums 05-15-2021, 01:41 PM
Replies: 19
Views: 1,492
Posted By BEC
Re: Chicago Show

I didn't take pics yesterday but saw: Abilone Radio King, Gretsch Gladstones, KB badge Thermogloss downbeat set, Citrus Mod, Mod Orange, Psych Red sets all nice, Camco outfits, mint pink oyster jazz...
Forum: Vintage Drums 05-06-2021, 06:47 PM
Replies: 6
Views: 1,009
Posted By BEC
Re: Rogers WMP Sighting

In England, in the sixties, backing tracks were illegal for a while.
Forum: Vintage Drums 05-03-2021, 12:48 PM
Replies: 36
Views: 6,617
Posted By BEC
Re: Ludwig Standard Granitone Questions

And, nobody really cared too much about what kind of wood they used I've been told (by long time employees).
Forum: Vintage Drums 05-03-2021, 12:00 PM
Replies: 36
Views: 6,617
Posted By BEC
Re: Ludwig Standard Granitone Questions

I never heard the whole point of Resocoat or Granitone was not so they could use different types of wood and they'd all match up?
WFL2 told me it was because the wood didn't look good, not for...
Forum: Vintage Drums 04-23-2021, 01:25 PM
Replies: 8
Views: 579
Posted By BEC
Re: [B]1936-39 LUDWIG 6.5 x 14 “BUTTERSCOTCH PEARL” (uncatalogued) SUPER-LUDWIG MODEL

I don't know if this drum pictured is "yellowed" WMP, but I'm pretty sure it's not what we call Butterscotch, unless the color in the pic is tinted or altered?
Forum: Vintage Drums 04-23-2021, 11:55 AM
Replies: 8
Views: 579
Posted By BEC
Re: [B]1936-39 LUDWIG 6.5 x 14 “BUTTERSCOTCH PEARL” (uncatalogued) SUPER-LUDWIG MODEL

I own, and have seen, a fair amount of "Butterscotch" drums.
The finish is browner than the drum shown here.
The top line drums are found in one outfit, 26-15-11 and a standard snare, not a super....
Forum: Vintage Drums 04-15-2021, 01:44 PM
Replies: 18
Views: 1,539
Posted By BEC
Re: Chicago Drum Show 2021

We definitely are backwater bros!!
Forum: Vintage Drums 04-13-2021, 12:06 PM
Replies: 18
Views: 1,539
Posted By BEC
Re: Chicago Drum Show 2021

KO, You live in illinois, but maybe the news hasn't arrived in your backwater yet, but things have already flared up and restrictions are still in place. Like you, I'm hoping for the best, but so...
Forum: Vintage Drums 04-13-2021, 12:03 PM
Replies: 18
Views: 1,539
Posted By BEC
Re: Chicago Drum Show 2021

The quote above is wishful thinking.....
Forum: Vintage Drums 04-12-2021, 01:55 PM
Replies: 18
Views: 1,539
Posted By BEC
Re: Chicago Drum Show 2021

Apparently some people are already announcing my presence at the Chicago Show!
I'll be there if:
1. Illinois covid rates drop and the State Of Illinois allows more than 25-50 customers in at a...
Forum: Vintage Drums 04-01-2021, 01:40 PM
Replies: 9
Views: 721
Posted By BEC
Re: Re 70's Ludwig Supraphonic w/silver badge

Ludwig did not sell factory seconds before 1999 that I'm aware of?
And, if the drums were factory seconds, they likely would have been disassembled and the bad parts scrapped.
That's what they did...
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