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Forum: Vintage Drums Yesterday, 11:29 AM
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Posted By slingerfan
Re: What are the differences between Ludwig and Slingerland shells?

There is a complete history of Slingerland shells right here on VDG. A must read. All your questions will be answered. http://www.vintagedrumguide.com/drcjw/article_3_shells1.html
Forum: Vintage Drums Yesterday, 11:18 AM
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Re: What are the differences between Ludwig and Slingerland shells?

Good info with a few clarifications regarding Slingerland 3-ply shells: Slingerland did not choose an inner ply based on the outer ply that was being used. There were 'inner ply' eras. Mahogany...
Forum: Vintage Drums 09-12-2021, 11:17 AM
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Re: Need a chuckle? Check this out!

Based on the woefully inadequate pictures looks to be a '55-'57 kit. "Good condition Repainted white" per the seller. I wonder what wrap is under that paint. Pricing is probably only off by one...
Forum: Vintage Drums 08-16-2021, 09:12 PM
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Posted By slingerfan
Re: This is the Display Your Slingerland Drums Thread

Mark, you've got examples of some of the best variations of both BDP and Blue sparkle.
Forum: Vintage Drums 08-16-2021, 05:05 PM
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Posted By slingerfan
Re: This is the Display Your Slingerland Drums Thread

Nice Mark. How do you not have a blue sparkle? (LOL)
Forum: General Drum Questions 08-02-2021, 11:11 AM
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Posted By slingerfan
Re: Slingerland 6.5x14 10 lug 3 vent BR models

Yes, that is the way I understand it to be.
Forum: General Drum Questions 08-01-2021, 07:32 PM
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Posted By slingerfan
Re: Slingerland 6.5x14 10 lug 3 vent BR models

IF you are referring to the '76-'77 Buddy Rich snare then 5-ply only would be expected. That Buddy Rich model was essentially a TDR Deluxe Concert King. Per Slingerland historian Dr. Carl Wenk all...
Forum: Vintage Drums 07-28-2021, 06:16 PM
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Views: 498
Posted By slingerfan
Re: Ludwig Supraphonic LM400 Question

Thin shell, have you had success with this procedure? Won't the heat required to flow solder on the shell discolor the surrounding chrome?
Forum: Vintage Drums 07-27-2021, 10:30 AM
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Posted By slingerfan
Re: Please help me identify a Ludwig 6.5x14 Black Beauty

Available on eBay, it's a must have: https://www.ebay.com/itm/265140792475?hash=item3dbb9f6c9b:g:T2UAAOSwTd9fePND
Forum: Vintage Drums 07-25-2021, 05:14 PM
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Posted By slingerfan
Re: Leedy Superior Hardwhite heads

FWIW, "Leedy Superior Hardwhite" calf heads were available into the 60's. Not sure if the logo changed or not.
Forum: Vintage Drums 07-16-2021, 12:44 PM
Replies: 18
Views: 938
Posted By slingerfan
Re: Vintage Rogers Snare Drum

Murf, you should ask Mark (idrum4fun) if he is interested in your drum. He will give you a fair price and, better yet, a good home for your drum.
Forum: Vintage Cymbals 07-13-2021, 08:05 PM
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Posted By slingerfan
Forum: For Sale 07-09-2021, 08:32 PM
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Posted By slingerfan
Re: Has anyone dealt with Purdie Shuffle?

Yes, that is what any ethical seller should do. Unless the buyer arranged their own shipping, the shipper (USPS, UPS etc.) is an agent of the seller and therefore the seller is ethically responsible...
Forum: Vintage Drums 06-28-2021, 11:43 AM
Replies: 9
Views: 686
Posted By slingerfan
Re: Leedy Badges

Around the middle of '63 is when the shell interiors, of plied drums, changed from mahogany to clear maple. Yours could be either (or a mix of both). Mahogany-earlier '63, Maple-later '63.
Forum: Vintage Drums 06-27-2021, 12:06 PM
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Views: 686
Posted By slingerfan
Re: Leedy Badges

Good question Dan. Double sided Slingerland era Leedy lugs do have the 'bosses' (e.g. snares, center lug basses and toms). Single sided lugs seem to be predominately without 'bosses' (flat backed),...
Forum: Vintage Drums 06-26-2021, 11:03 AM
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Views: 686
Posted By slingerfan
Re: Leedy Badges

Per Slingerland historian Dr. Carl Wenk: Slingerland applied badges to Leedy toms thru 1960. NO badges on Leedy toms '61 - mid '66. Badges on Leedy toms from mid '66 onward. These patterns have...
Forum: Vintage Drums 06-16-2021, 02:46 PM
Replies: 13
Views: 785
Posted By slingerfan
Re: Slingerland tom air vent MIA

Mark, what is the thickness of your original Slingerland wrap? What is the thickness of a modern wrap? I've got a thickness of ~.020"-.025" for 60's Slingerland WMP wrap.
Forum: Vintage Drums 06-16-2021, 02:40 PM
Replies: 13
Views: 785
Posted By slingerfan
Re: Slingerland tom air vent MIA

You may not be wrong. There are reports of head fit problems when wrapping Slingerland shells that were originally natural/painted. Is it primarily pre '57 Slingerlands which were formed like the...
Forum: Vintage Drums 06-16-2021, 02:25 PM
Replies: 13
Views: 785
Posted By slingerfan
Re: Slingerland tom air vent MIA

This statement seems logical but can it be said without reservation that Slingerland did NOT have a means to produce different shells for use with or without a wrap? Slingerland produced their own...
Forum: Vintage Drums 06-13-2021, 06:58 PM
Replies: 13
Views: 785
Posted By slingerfan
Re: Slingerland tom air vent MIA

No badges/air vents on Slingerland toms till June 1966. The "P" indicates the drum would be wrapped as opposed to a natural finish or paint. The interior of your drum would be expected to be...
Forum: Vintage Drums 06-04-2021, 12:05 PM
Replies: 14
Views: 809
Posted By slingerfan
Re: Rogers Collet Thread Size?

Exactly, it's the cone and taper design that provides the holding force. If you're replacing a collet nut you need to know the thread diameter, the thread pitch AND the collet type and taper. As I...
Forum: Vintage Drums 06-03-2021, 06:50 PM
Replies: 14
Views: 809
Posted By slingerfan
Re: Rogers Collet Thread Size?

You need the correct collet nuts not just any nut with the same thread. Why not contact the person you got the kit from? I thought in another thread you said he was "THE Rodgers guy"? Perhaps he...
Forum: Vintage Drums 05-26-2021, 05:21 PM
Replies: 22
Views: 1,038
Posted By slingerfan
Re: Rogers Collett Mounts

You are correct Mark, Rodgers does call it the "collet nose". Industry standard is "collet nut" which seems to be more descriptive and less ambiguous, especially for those who understand fasteners...
Forum: Vintage Drums 05-26-2021, 02:38 PM
Replies: 22
Views: 1,038
Posted By slingerfan
Re: Rogers Collett Mounts

Correct, and the part generally referred to as the "nose" is technically called the "collet nut".
Forum: Vintage Drums 05-09-2021, 08:30 PM
Replies: 9
Views: 511
Posted By slingerfan
Re: Manufacturing Years for Vintage Slingerland Drum Set

Maple would be expected for the drum interiors in '66, either clear or beige stained (later).
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