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Ludwig hoop differences

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I spent yesterday cleaning the chrome parts for the 1964 Super Classic project I'm working on. As I was doing the hoops for the rack and floor toms, I noticed the top and bottom hoops on each were pressed differently.

I'm assuming this is the difference between chrome over brass and chrome over steel. Here are two shots. The first is brass (non-magnetic); the second is steel.

[IMG]http://www.flickr.com/photos/56520584@N07/5344587651/[/IMG]

http://www.flickr.com/photos/56520584@N07/5344587651/

Chrome over brass

[IMG]http://www.flickr.com/photos/56520584@N07/5345200372/[/IMG]

http://www.flickr.com/photos/56520584@N07/5345200372/

Chrome over steel

So, naturally, that got me to wondering the following:

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[*]Am I correct that they are both Ludwig rims from the '60s, and the difference in shape is just the difference in brass versus steel? Or, do I have a mixture of various years?

[*]Should all the hoops be the same metal or were they originally mixed at the factory? If the former, what is correct for an April '64 kit, brass or steel? If the latter, does it matter which type is used with which head? Right now I've got the brass ones on the batter head end and the steel ones on the resonant end, which is how I got the kit.

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I'm hoping what I have is correct, but somehow I think this story ends with me trying to track down a 13" and 16" COB set of hoops.

Thanks for any input.

John

Posted on 14 years ago
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John, that top pic is a re pro not a ludwig the bottom one is, answer this, Do both rim have the same size holes for the tension rods to pass threw? I bet the bottom rim has smaller hole Diameters.

Your drummers not much good is he!? What you need is someone that's as good as me. ! John Henry Bonham !!
Posted on 14 years ago
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Hi,

Thanks for your post. The holes in both types of hoops are the same shape (elongated) and size.

Does anyone have a Ludwig kit from the early/mid '60s with the original rims that they could post some photos of? I'm curious to compare what I have with originals.

Thanks,

John

Posted on 14 years ago
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the first one is a bottom wfl early ludwig nob rim. the second pic is a 60's bottom ludwig nob rim.

Your drummers not much good is he!? What you need is someone that's as good as me. ! John Henry Bonham !!
Posted on 14 years ago
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