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Tubular bell tone on Great gates of kiev Last viewed: 10 hours ago

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Hey everyone,

I'm going to play Great gates of Kiev (Pictures) from ELP with my band.

Does anyone know what note of Tubular Bell Carl Palmer is using on this song?

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhinCRAl1UA"]ELP - The Great Gate Of Kiev - Tokyo (1972) DVDR - YouTube[/ame]

(02:15)

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULb6IweAev0"]Emerson, Lake and Palmer_The Hut of Baba Yaga-The Great Gates of Kiev (1972) - YouTube[/ame]

(08:46)

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZK_fFtwKs0"]ELP / The Great Gates of Kiev / 1974 California Jam - YouTube[/ame]

(3:37)

Posted on 10 years ago
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Jeebee,

Carl is clearly hitting an A[SIZE="1"]b[/SIZE] (A flat) in that third video, but that's only relevant if your band is playing that piece in the same key. Ask the guitarist or keyboardist what chord is being played at that point in the piece and just try hitting the tonic of that chord.

Mike

-No Guru... still learning more every day-
Posted on 10 years ago
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Jeebee - Honest, why does your band even want to play that stuff at all? ELP was great when they first hit the scene, then they got all up their own as*es and the music that the band made became pompous, way over the top and playing music together just became a chops fest among the players. Three guys playing all-out, but not together! The drummer and the keyboard player are prime examples of over-playing just to show off their chops, and not to serve the material/music. In all those numbers the drummer is soloing from start to finish and none of it actually enhances, or even fits the music. The cat doesn't even give the lead singer any breathing room, he's back there soloing all out. What seasoned drummer plays like that? With the three of them competing for the spotlight it's just a cacophony of competing noise.

Rant over. Couldn't help myself. Can you tell that I'm not too crazy about ELP's music in their later years? LOL The same thing happened to the band, 'Yes'. As musicians they all got so full of themselves from their early success, that the music really began to suffer. Bad era in Rock & Roll. One of the only bands like ELP and Yes to come out of that era as good as, or better than when they started was ELO (Electric Light Orchestra.) They never lost their rock roots, or tried to turn their music into modern classical. I was watching American Hustle the other night and was completely blown away when I heard ELO's 'Long Black Road' pumping through my speakers. I'm not down on all of those groups, just the ones that got all full of themselves and ruined their own music and sound as a result. ELO always cared about the music first, chops show second.

Crank up the volume for this one!

[ame]http://youtu.be/LhXF6XfduPQ[/ame]

John

Too many great drums to list here!

http://www.walbergandauge.com/VintageVenue.htm
Posted on 10 years ago
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Aw come on Purdie, lighten up! :) Carl Palmer is one of the best ever drummers. At least he wasn't afraid to go commercial with Asia in the 1980s to present.

Funny I just read something today about an arranger for ELO back in the day. He later was responsible for those annoying "Hooked On Classics" albums that were popular in the 1980s. The album side mashups with that annoying repetitive beat in the background as songs transition from one to another. Ugh!

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Posted on 10 years ago
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> Aw come on Purdie, lighten up!

LOL I couldn't help it, I saw ELP mentioned and my brain went fritz! Sorry for the rant. I guess I needed to unload some long held bad feelings towards ELP. :p

John

Too many great drums to list here!

http://www.walbergandauge.com/VintageVenue.htm
Posted on 10 years ago
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