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Tiny ROGERS Last viewed: 3 hours ago

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Don't see a BD this small, from this period, featured in these promo pics.

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Posted on 10 years ago
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That is not a bass drum, that is a toy masquerading as a drum!

*ducks for cover*



Jazz snob in training

No relation the other KL from PA
Posted on 10 years ago
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Is that an 18"?

Looks even smaller. :)

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Posted on 10 years ago
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I`m curious too and i`m guessing an 18" as i don`t think Rogers "factory made" anything smaller.

Wayne

1967 Rogers Cleveland Champagne Sparkle
20,16,13,13.
1967/68 Rogers Dayton Champagne Sparkle
20,16,13,13.
1966 Rogers cob 7 Line Dynasonic Snare.
1967 Rogers "Humberto Morales" Timbales.
1980 Ludwig B/O badge 14x 6.5 Black Beauty Snare.
1980 Ludwig B/O badge Red Cortex
22,22,18,16,15,14,13.
1988 Sonor "Horst Link" HLD 590 14x8 Bronze Snare
Posted on 10 years ago
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Let's assume that we're looking at 12" and 14" toms... that would make the bass drum a 16"!!! It looks to be just about 2" bigger than the floor tom. I say it's a 16".

Just spit-balling from a photo...

John

Too many great drums to list here!

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Posted on 10 years ago
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It doesn't look too small to me. An 18", I think.

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-1960s 3ply Red Sparkle Amati
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Posted on 10 years ago
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Take a piece of paper and tick off the diameter of the snare drum on the x-axis. Then move over to the floor tom and compare. I think you'll find that set is 20,13,16 with a 14 snare. Just taking the technical point of view from a photo.

As to spit-balling, I like doing that too, so I'm going to submit that the bass is only 12" deep judging by how close the lugs are and the relationship of the mounts to that same distance. However, there is a bit of foreshortening going on in the photo, so that has to remain in the spit-balling category.

Here's the more modern version without the snare drum and with 14" deep bass drum. We don't see as many of these set-ups nowadays, but they were fairly common at one time. My very first vintage kit was a Rogers WMP 20,13,16, followed by my second, which was a Rogers blue sparkle 20.13.16. Then I realized that you had to have either 20,12,14 or 22,13,16 to be consider cool Walking. Now I realize that is BS. You have to play well to be cool.

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Posted on 10 years ago
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By the way, here is the 18,12,14 relationship. I've also never heard of any Rogers bass drums being built at 16" diameter, but I ready to see one!

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Posted on 10 years ago
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PS - Check ride cymbal to bass too. If you assume the most common size of ride being 20", the bass is 20".

Posted on 10 years ago
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Yes indeed!... and when I work with the smaller groups.. ( although I HAVE played these with the Sinatra Show too ) .. I use this Cleveland era Rogers set:

14X18

8X12 or 8X10 XP8 in WMP

14X14

5X14 WMP Dynasonic

Based on these pics of my set, I would also agree that the bass drum in that pic is a 16"... and with a shallower depth as Dan has indicated. Had to be custom ordered/made at the time I would say... but certainly no issue for an endorser!

Tommyp

Posted on 10 years ago
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