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some questions about the new kit... Last viewed: 5 hours ago

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Hey guys, maybe you read my 'trade Rogers for Ludwig' thread a few weeks ago (http://vintagedrumforum.com/showthread.php?t=19556)...

Just a couple of Q's:

So when I really start to get the kit warmed up, I get this "smell" which seems to be coming from the 16" floor tom. It's totally weird, and hard to describe, almost like a metal on metal, or solder type of smell? It's not like too intense to handle, just curious if anyone knows what it might be...

On a similar note, I pulled off one of the lugs and there was a pile of powder inside that looked like the remnants of an ancient repacking. I'm going to do the whole kit over the next few weeks, just wondering if anyone knows where I can find a tutorial for it? I've seen some threads on here, but still have some questions, and would love to see a visual.

Thanks so much, you guys are awesome!

Posted on 14 years ago
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You got me on the smell, but the residue you see in the lugs. it is Oxidation from the elements over time.

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Posted on 14 years ago
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From vintagemore2000

You got me on the smell, but the residue you see in the lugs. it is Oxidation from the elements over time.

So, take em apart and clean them all out? Replace the springs? Repack?

Posted on 14 years ago
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Yes, this is the basic restro you would do, clean lube, your springs are fine clean them. so you got the ludwig kit right?, if I was to detail and prep this kit, I do one drum at a time remove clean and detail all metal parts, clean the shell inside and out, inspect shells for structural issue, ply separation bearing edges etc, polish shell, and all metal parts reinstall,

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Posted on 14 years ago
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Te residue inside the lug is from te spring packing that has dry rotted over time and turned to powder. When I repack my springs, all I do is wrap each soring wit an unrolled cotton ball. It isolates te spring from rattling against the inside of the lug casing. Cleaning the t-rods can be messy and you will find as many different methods as there are members.

I use a t-rod nut-driver, 4-0 steel wool and mineral oil in conjunction with my screw gun. Running the rods in and out of the lightly mineral oil soaked wool deep cleans and lubes the rods, taking all those years of crud away in moments.

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Posted on 14 years ago
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From jonnistix

Te residue inside the lug is from te spring packing that has dry rotted over time and turned to powder.

That's what I thought it was too, seems to be a lot of it in there. Isn't there a raging debate over what happens with cotton balls vs. felt or foam for a repack?

Thanks for the tips!

Posted on 14 years ago
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I don't know about a debate, I just unroll a cotton ball and wrap enough around the spring to isolate it from the casing.

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Posted on 14 years ago
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From jonnistix

I don't know about a debate, I just unroll a cotton ball and wrap enough around the spring to isolate it from the casing.

Same here for cotton balls. I know people can get into some raging debates about some things, but cotton balls? How can you get into a rage at a nice little cotton ball?

Posted on 14 years ago
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From zenstat

Same here for cotton balls. I know people can get into some raging debates about some things, but cotton balls? How can you get into a rage at a nice little cotton ball?

I thought the same thing, but isn't there an opinion that cotton turns into goo and attaches itself to the spring after a number of years?

Posted on 14 years ago
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It won't turn to goo. .. only constant moisture could do that.

I recently pulled the lugs off a snare that has 30-year "old" cotton in it, and I didn't (need to) replace it with "new" cotton.

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