Just curious about this. When the pros do a conversion of a 16x18 floor tom into a 14x18 bass drum, what is the method for dealing with the problem of lug placement? It seems a major problem to me, but I also see (for instance) 16x18 Jasper conversions are fairly highly prized. I'm imagining they're punched full of plugged holes, is this in fact the case?
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So how is a 16x18 bass drum conversion done?
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Far as I know ( and have seen ) generally they keep the lugs in the same position. Most companies / guys who do custom drums, or customization of drums have a lug placement sheet. It lines up where the lugs should be. As far as plugged holes that's usually just where the leg brackets were, but a lot of guys utilize those so as not to have a drum with numerous plugged holes.
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U might want to consider leaving the floor tom as is with out alteration. Here is a 16 X 18 conversion to the best bass drum I own.
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Far as I know ( and have seen ) generally they keep the lugs in the same position. Most companies / guys who do custom drums, or customization of drums have a lug placement sheet. It lines up where the lugs should be. As far as plugged holes that's usually just where the leg brackets were, but a lot of guys utilize those so as not to have a drum with numerous plugged holes.
How would that work when cutting 2 inches of shell depth off though? Are the lugs then just closer to the rims than before?
BTW, no need to dissuade me of anything here. I do not have a shell that I'm converting, I'm just asking for curiosity's sake.
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How would that work when cutting 2 inches of shell depth off though? Are the lugs then just closer to the rims than before?
No. What you would do is measure the placement of the lugs to the rim ( say 1" ) and you would place the lugs in the same position. No different than placing lugs on a bare shell.
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No. What you would do is measure the placement of the lugs to the rim ( say 1" ) and you would place the lugs in the same position. No different than placing lugs on a bare shell.
But it's not a bare shell, it has lug holes drilled already. So do those just get plugged up? What am I missing here?
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Let's say you chop a drum from 16" to 14". Either you'll cut off both lug holes, or you'll end up with one. That one will likely become the bottom lug hole and you'll drill for a new top one. Usually when doing a conversion you try and utilize holes as opposed to plugging and drilling for new ones. Also when doing a cut down you take into account where the rim will sit. You want it to have the same spacing as the other end of the drum ( provided you only cut down one side and not 1" from both )
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Right that makes sense. I wasn't sure if that was possible but it is if the holes are within 2" of the edge on both floor tom and bass drum. Then I guess you'd have a 10-lug bass drum, right?
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U might want to consider leaving the floor tom as is with out alteration. Here is a 16 X 18 conversion to the best bass drum I own.
Are those the original tom lugs?
Or did you install BD lugs?
Or shim out the tom lugs?
Usually with wood hoops, you have to shim the tom lugs out or install BD lugs.
Or did your wood hoops fit fine with tom lugs?
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I would just get this, with no drilling, holes or extra hardware necessary..
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