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Rogers Dynasonic Questions Last viewed: 23 hours ago

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I have recently come into possession of a 5x14 COB 70's Dynasonic, and I'm trying to figure some things out. Basically, it is a friends and I have it on loan until I decide whether I want to buy it from him or not.

It sounds great, the shell and hoops are in round, but he doesn't have the snare bridge. So since it doesn't have bearing edges, you can only get the snares so tight. They still rattle, which really limits the versatility of the drum. I'm basically weighing my options. I can buy the drum, and buy a snare bridge off ebay and take it from there. But... I don't love the supersensitive style systems, since it would be my go to drum, and would prefer the simplicity of the standard throw off. I am wondering how difficult the snare tension adjustments are with this system, I know vertically they are easy, but how hard is it to go from super cranked snare, to nice and loose and gushy? I record a lot and play a lot of different styles live, so this is important to me.

That being said, is it completely unimaginable that I could add a snare bed to this snare? I know that seems like a lot of trouble, and possibly blaspheme.... But I have access to a high end drum shop (they built the rest of my custom kit) so if it could be done, it wouldn't be a difficulty.

Basically, I love old 5x14 COB snares, and would ideally be looking for a Supra, but my friend offered me this drum dirt cheap, so I want to see if I can make it work. It does have some advantages over the supras: It seems a bit drier, and also seem to hold its tuning better, which is awesome. Help me! What is your experience (if any) with some of my concerns?

Thanks.

Goodmanjoe

Posted on 14 years ago
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Welcome! Enter the search term "dynasonic adjustment" and that should get you the directors cut on how to tune it WITH the bridge. As for no bridge, I had not the trouble you describe with my COB Dyna sans bridge. I tore the drum down to it's bare shell, literally, cleaned and lubed every moving part, including taking the strainer apart and putting it back together.

Once I began to reassemble it, I put it to the exact specs I would use for an Acrolite/Supra. I tensioned the snareside head up pretty tight using a new head, an Evens Hazy 200, using snare cord on the snares and actually used Taiwanese or Chinese snappies, 20 strand. Sounds great and the new owner will like it as much as any other COB not-sensitive snare out there. I get no buzz from this one.

Also, you can get the bridge/frame rail for about USD $100

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Posted on 14 years ago
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Dynasonics dont have a " super cranked snare " adjustment.

The snare tension screw on the snare frame, is finger tight which brings the snare tension to the point the wires will sing. Overtightening this adjustment accomplishes nothing except stretching wires.

The Throw off tension knob brings the snare frame up to JUST...... and NO MORE..... kiss the snare side head. The frame will not be tight against the head. You will have response from the lightest strokes at the edge of the drum. Overtensioning this adjustment only results in a choked snare and will result in a dent in the brass shell at the throw off panel.

Read Tommy P's Dynasonic tuning paper.

As far as the drum itself, its a great drum, I have 10 of them.

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Posted on 14 years ago
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I had a dyna for years and at the time I got it I had the frame but not the wires,and puresound had not come out with the repros.A guy at my local drumshop set it up with regular wires and it was a good sounding drum,and quite a bit louder than supras and other cob snares,like my worldmax black dawg.I don't know about other dynas but that one had a rimshot that would cut your head off.I then fitted the frame with the puresounds and it changed the sound a little bit,don't know if it was the frame or the wires or both.I never got quick at changing the bottom head and setting it up,that was always a bit of a chore but once set up and tuned well it stayed that way,and it was not a delicate thing,like a supersensitve is.You can adjust the amount of slop from the snares by adjusting the throwoff tension and the adjustment screw on the snare frame,and with the puresounds it it is pretty hard to choke the drum in my experience.Just keep in mind that the frame could cost anywhere from 80.00 to 150.00,but lately I have been hearing 80.00 to 100.00,and the puresound snares about 50.00 60.00,so keep that in mind when paying for the drum itself,if you pay 100.00 to 150.00 you will have in it about what you could sell it for complete,if you decide you want to sell it in the future without losing money.

Posted on 14 years ago
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Ploughman is correct across the board here. 10 Dynasonics? Hmmm... I only have 4!! LOL! Here's the link to the set-up/tuning directions that I wrote a while back. They will get your drum in the proper area... "fine tune" is to taste after that! http://www.vintagedrumguide.com/rogers_dynasonic_set_up2.html

Tommyp

Posted on 14 years ago
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I recently bought a dyna from a member here that had no wires. I got Puresounds for about $40 and set them up using TommyPs advice. The drum sounds fantastic! I got a COB 60s LUddy about the same time and it kills as well. Alot of similarities in the two soundwise. Must be those old brass shells.

Posted on 14 years ago
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The dynasonic is a cool drum so if you buy it restore it to its original condition,then judge from there. Slingerland cob snares are kick ass as well.

Kinda a sleeper drum in popularity,which is good when you are the buyer.

I own both a 1965 cob and a 1969 dynasonic. I like them both,however I prefer the Slingerland over the dyna.

Posted on 14 years ago
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I will be purchacing a Dynasonic custom with freee floating snare. its a chrome shell. think it's a 14x 5. I'll be paying a hundred bucks for it hopefully I'm not getting bent over? I'm not familiar with rogers drums. don't know much about this one when i get it I'll post some pictures of it.

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