> a sweet little teenage girl... Now doesn't that touching story just bring a lump to your throat?Lump in throat, no... lump in pants, yes!John lol
That's just wrong. Maybe it should be reminded that there is a 12 year old female drummer and her father that are members here. I'm surprised at this comment.
I'm one of those drummers that breaks sticks all the time. Vater 5b n's. As well as an occasional bass drum head, crash cymbal, snare head (blew out a Dip. snare side the other night. 1st time for that. Dips. are too thin). I would imagine that it is my "technique" that is to blame. Some of my "technique" comes from studying with Alan Dawson but the "technique" that I can attribute to my stick snapping comes from Gary Chaffee. He refined my "technique" in a way that allows me to hit hard with little effort. He referred to it as a "hybrid Moeller technique". Heck, he even told me I was one of his good students but from what some people are saying here it seems that I wasted my money because this "technique" is wrong. So it is to assume that players like Steve Smith, Vinnie Colaiuta, Joey Kramer or Kenwood Denard are doing something wrong since Gary was a big contributor in their educations as well.
Said it best himself--- I was a bit taken a back myself.
there was a time in all our lives when we were prone to saying stupid things. Ahh, youth. Some outgrow it, some don't. All part of the learning process.John
But with regard to stick breaking: You know I don't think there is a right or wrong on this one... Gary Chaffee is soooo... smooth on a kit. The drummers that I grew up with beat the crap of their kits and I loved it... still do.
I guess you would have to see me... older, short puggy bald guy, in my white shirt and neck tie, snooping around the only vintage kit in the store and this young fellow must think I play like Ginger Baker... heck.. looking back.. I think maybe he complimented me. :)
That's just wrong. Maybe it should be reminded that there is a 12 year old female drummer and her father that are members here. I'm surprised at this comment.
He meant the lump was because he keeps broken stick parts in his pocket of course!! Yes??
Young....still learnin'......I rarely break sticks......that being said I play 2B pro mark "oak" sticks.......they are tough to breakYes Sir
Nice little drum stick production video on the Vater website... http://vater.com/company/
They're making a BUNCH of sticks... so there sure must be a crowd of heavy hitters to keep them in business.
I'm not doing my part.... now I'm feeling guilty... support made in American.. bust a drum stick today. :)
There is nothing wrong with using big sticks or hitting hard. Just use proper technique. If you do, you won't damage your equipment. If your damaging equipment you need to evaluate your technique.
Hmmmmmmm lets see moonie broke alot of sticks I have sat there and watched him back stage... Carmine Appiece broke sticks too, also John Bonham broke Paiste 2002's, without stereo typing anyone into a you are right I am wrong category, alot of it has to do with the music you play and how you play my style of playing was very physical and I liked to play that way and yes I broke cymbals a few not many, but tons of sticks and I have put my foot through more than one bass drum head and snare heads.... just the way it goes and you play how God gave you the means too.... now don't go and get all techy on everyone..... it is music have fun let go just enjoy...
Hmmmmmmm lets see moonie broke alot of sticks I have sat there and watched him back stage... Carmine Appiece broke sticks too, also John Bonham broke Paiste 2002's, without stereo typing anyone into a you are right I am wrong category, alot of it has to do with the music you play and how you play my style of playing was very physical and I liked to play that way and yes I broke cymbals a few not many, but tons of sticks and I have put my foot through more than one bass drum head and snare heads.... just the way it goes and you play how God gave you the means too.... now don't go and get all techy on everyone..... it is music have fun let go just enjoy...
Without being judgmental here, there is no question that there are incorrect ways of playing which will result in more damage to your instrument. And there are ways of playing, holding sticks, striking cymbals and heads, angle of cymbals and heads, etc. which minimize damage to all of the above.
In addition, to play extremely fast you can't help but strike harder, but drummers who have great control can play extremely fast without completely destroying sticks and heads. And if it's volume you're looking for then mic your drums.
If you're going through cymbals, heads, and sticks, regularly, like weekly/monthly then maybe there's something you can learn about technique to help.
Without being judgmental here, there is no question that there are incorrect ways of playing which will result in more damage to your instrument. And there are ways of playing, holding sticks, striking cymbals and heads, angle of cymbals and heads, etc. which minimize damage to all of the above.In addition, to play extremely fast you can't help but strike harder, but drummers who have great control can play extremely fast without completely destroying sticks and heads. And if it's volume you're looking for then mic your drums.If you're going through cymbals, heads, and sticks, regularly, like weekly/monthly then maybe there's something you can learn about technique to help.
In the main I agree, but can I pick up one thing. To play extremely fast means you have to play softer. Try playing a single stroke roll at say, 220bpm and play 16ths. Can you really sustain that roll with the same stick height (ie full Stroke) as playing half notes at say ff or even fff such as a hard rock back beat? if so please put it on YT.
I have noticed that the extreme drummers such as George Kolias et al play quit lightly due to the ridiculous blast beats they throw out. They just could not play that fast at that high a velocity.
