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Question about 3 ply Gretsch shell thickness

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Hey guys, just curious if anyone knows how thick each ply in the Brooklyn made Gretsch shells were? I've read from one source that they were 1/16 maple, 1/8 poplar, 1/16 maple. Do any of you know if this is correct? Thanks!

Posted on 13 years ago
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I seem to remember this being asked about on another forum,I think cymbalholic.Their seems to be a lot of gretsch enthusiasts over there,and that there was variation in thickness of the shells with RB,esp with the three ply.

Posted on 13 years ago
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Not really sure about the Gretsch, but that's the formula Slingerland used for many years & were without a doubt some of the greatest sounding ply shells of all time.

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Not sure about the ply thicknesses, but the formula is maple/gumwood/maple, no poplar in Gretsch-Jasper shells of old.

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Posted on 13 years ago
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From jonnistix

Not sure about the ply thicknesses, but the formula is maple/gumwood/maple, no poplar in Gretsch-Jasper shells of old.

I know that. I'm actually referring to the shells that Gretsch made themselves in their Brooklyn factory in the 1950s before switching to the pre-fab shells from Jasper. From Fred Gretsch referring to Louie Bellson's original double bass set, "The drums on the kit featured Gretsch’s cross-laminated three-ply shells, with 1/16”-thick veneers of maple on the inside and outside, with a 1/8"-thick middle layer of poplar." This leads me to believe that their original shells on all kits were composed of maple & poplar. (And also answers my question about ply thickness.)

On this very forum in a thread about the Jasper company, a poster under the name "mlvibes" said "3 ply Gretsch shells were made by Gretsch, at the Brooklyn factory, and were maple/poplar/maple. Because of this, 3 ply Gretsch drums are more true to the saying "Brooklyn-made Gretsch". And after that I discovered a set sold by classicvintagedrums with rare maple/poplar/maple re-rings: http://www.classicvintagedrums.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=65_71&products_id=732. Obviously they used poplar in some things. The question now is, how much?

Posted on 13 years ago
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can anybody weigh in on the durablilty factor? assuming the 3-ply are more prone to warpage and damage? i want to know before i make a 3-ply into a road kit.

thanks!

adam

Posted on 13 years ago
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Not sure about wood species as far as ply make up goes,or thickness of ind plies,From what I understand the 3 ply and 6 ply shells were the same thickness though,about a 1/4 inch.

As far as durability goes,people are using 6 ply kellers on the road ,which are thinner than 1/4 inch,so as long as you have the toms on rims,and no mounting hardware on the shell itself I would say you would be O.K.,as long as you have good cases and are handling them yourself.

Posted on 13 years ago
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hard to say. probably snare stand. and i'm not always handling my own gear. however i'm more thinking sub-zero temperatures for long periods of time. hmm, might have to start a thread about durability!

adam

Posted on 13 years ago
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