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My new Speedking Last viewed: 17 hours ago

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Ok so after reading some compelling testimonials on here regarding the legendary Ludwig Speedking pedal I decided to take the plunge and buy one. I reasoned that I should get the best quality example to try, so I went all the way and bought a refurbished Chicago era one from Jesse at DrumMechanix.

Firstly can I say that Jesse was great to deal with. As it was a transatlantic deal he made me feel at ease, staying in close contact via email. The pedal arrived properly packaged and indeed refurbished and looking clean and fresh. No squeaks, no fuss.

As far as the suitability for me, the jury's out on that one for now. I think I need to mess with the setting on the springs, but I admit it feels amazing on the downstroke on a solid groove. I'm not convinced that it will be happy on a banging rock show, but I imagine it would be great for my more funky jazzy gigs.

By any chance, do any of you SK owners have any useful suggestions for me regarding spring tensions?

Cheers

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90's Sonor Hilite (Red maple)
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Posted on 12 years ago
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Congrats on the new old pedal. I like the spring tensions on the light side. I back them out all the way, then start to turn in till the springs start to compress. I then turn in 1 turn at a time and try it on the bass. I do this a few times till I'm happy with the action setting. The tighter the springs the harder/stiffer the action is. I like a light feel and still get great rebound. I forget the exact settings but it's about 3 turns in on each side. Mine hasn't been rebuilt it's just a older WFL. Just cleaned and greased well when I got it. I do need to find and replace 1 of the spring rods or whatever they are called. The end that rides the cam was a little chewed up on one side. But otherwise still plays great.

Glenn.

Not a guru just havin fun with some old dusty drums.
Posted on 12 years ago
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I used to start with the 2 screws flush to the bottom,then go 5 exact turns on each one...

That was quite a while ago...don't know what I would use now as far as turns....

"Always make sure your front bottom BD lugs clear the ground!"
Posted on 12 years ago
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I play blues, blues/rock and love my SK. I'm a heavy hitter so I think you'll like it for rock once you figure out what feels right for you. I keep mine adjusted on the light side (about 3ish turns in like FFR). It's quite a thumper. My SK wasn't refurbed so i had to clean out solid chunks of old lithium grease.

Mark

Posted on 12 years ago
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I'll try that, starting the screws from the bottom and working my way up. As for the Rock thing, it will need to gain my trust there, I tour the World playing every size crowd conceivable (up to and over 100,000 on occasions) my DW's do such a solid job. I use a 9000 and it's bomb proof! But I'm sure it will take the knocks on my local bar gigs, even the heayier ones.

40's Slingerland Radio King WMP
60's Ludwig Downbeat Silver Spark
70's Ludwig Super Classic White Marine
60's Gretsch RB Champaigne Spark
70's Rogers Big R Black
90's Sonor Hilite (Red maple)
00's DW Collectors Broken Glass
00's DW Jazz Series Tangerine Glass
10's DW Collectors (Acrylic) Matt Black Wrap
10's PDP Concept Wood Hoop kit (Maple)
Proud ambassador of the British Drum Company
Posted on 12 years ago
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Hi Gecko,

As you try to get used to your SK, there is another thing to consider, there are two variations of Speed-Kings. Check out my thread on the difference. There are little tabs that change the distance the pedal is from the beater skin.

http://www.vintagedrumforum.com/showthread.php?t=35234

Especially this pic which demonstrates the difference quite well.

http://www.vintagedrumforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=52639&d=1358089951

Since you shipped yours all the way overseas, I would consider modifying yours instead of replacing it like I am.

Surrounded by drummers here! (I am a guitarist.)
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Posted on 12 years ago
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More Rock and roll has been played on that pedal than all others combined ever! welcome to the club...

Posted on 12 years ago
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Moonweasel, yeah I read through those threads recently. I latched it onto my DW Jazz series BD and it seems just right. The metal connecter just misses the the head and the beater angle seems just fine. And I guess although I haven't tried it yet but its going to be perfect for the old Luddies in my collection(the drums it was designed for). I don't know about the Gretsch's yet, but I don't recall them having deep rims.

What I'm experiencing is the action seems a bit slow. I think its the rebound back up, so maybe I need to just bring up the springs a little. A question, should the screwheads be alined with each other? I don't know how precise the engineering of the threads are.

40's Slingerland Radio King WMP
60's Ludwig Downbeat Silver Spark
70's Ludwig Super Classic White Marine
60's Gretsch RB Champaigne Spark
70's Rogers Big R Black
90's Sonor Hilite (Red maple)
00's DW Collectors Broken Glass
00's DW Jazz Series Tangerine Glass
10's DW Collectors (Acrylic) Matt Black Wrap
10's PDP Concept Wood Hoop kit (Maple)
Proud ambassador of the British Drum Company
Posted on 12 years ago
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Cool Gecko, just wanted to make sure you were aware. I had no idea, and now will be on SK number 2. :)

Best of luck.

Surrounded by drummers here! (I am a guitarist.)
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1970/71? Ludwig Downbeat in Blue Oyster Pearl
http://www.vintagedrumforum.com/showthread.php?t=33677
Posted on 12 years ago
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Yes, the screws should be even so you have the same spring tension on both sides. I recently cleaned and restored my old WFL speed king and as others have suggested start with both screws even at the bottom of the post and give each one a even turn until it feels right to you. I think between 5 & 8 full turns should feel good but you just have to see what feels best for you. As I play heel up I like mine a little stiff and can get some pretty good velocity out of it.

Posted on 12 years ago
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