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Murphy's Law Morning for Ludwig Strainers Last viewed: 1 hour ago

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Please, right about now, I sure could use some help, especially from you Ludwig guys. This morning, I thought I'd try to install a P83 strainer onto my late seventies Supra, just to experiment a bit and see if there were a difference. Holes lined up perfectly but, the on/off lever rubbed against a lug. Not good. Seems the mounts were a bit too short. Okay, I tried. Time to put the P85 back on. It's a two hole black face. I know that works. Of course, in the process, the black nylon spacer which fits over the threads on the tension knob broke, probably just due to age. I'm trying to glue it back together now. A couple of nylon t-rod washers will work. So will a plumbing spacer I ground down. I try desperately to keep things original though. I then researched the same P85 that I have. Some have the nylon spacers, some do not! PLEASE, could someone tell me the reason for the spacer in the first place? I really can't see why it's necessary. I'm still trying to learn about Ludwigs though and I'm probably missing something. Thank you very much. My OCD tendencies are really kicking in.

Brian

Just a drummer who loves all things about vintage drums! Nothing more, nothing less.
Posted on 9 years ago
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The P83 should not have rubbed the lug. But i have seen some p85s do that as well. Usually the arm on the strainer has been bent in towards the lug a bit and can be straightened to remedy that. Later on, Ludwig actually made the p85's a bit taller so that the bottom would clear the hoops better. This also got it further from the lug.

Not all of them had the black round piece. I think it was to keep tension on the adjusting knob to keep it from backing off to easily. A hardware store might have some type of grommet that would suffice. In later years, Ludwig put a spring in it's place to do the same.

Back to the strainer..I've also had some 60's Ludwig metal shell snares that had a flat washer between the strainer and the shell at both mounting points. I assume this was also for clearance.

Mike

Posted on 9 years ago
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Thanks very much for the informative reply,Mike! I really appreciate it. I checked the P83 again for a bent arm but, nope, seems fine. The function of the spacer is probably just what you maintain. I have seen picture of P85 with springs as well and to my very limited knowledge, that would make more sense. Hmm..a lug spring? Anyway, perhaps the glue will work. I just need patience to leave it alone for a bit. Thanks again, Mike. You have improved my day immensely!

Brian

Just a drummer who loves all things about vintage drums! Nothing more, nothing less.
Posted on 9 years ago
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Don't understand why the P83 is hitting though. The shell and the lug would have been the same from 60's-70's. Unless the p83 has some wear in it and the arm is moving towards the back some.

Mike

Posted on 9 years ago
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Hey, Mike!

By just bending the arm very slightly, the P83 seems to now clear with lots of room. Perhaps the arm was bent ever so slightly the wrong way the first two times I tried. Now it is working just fine! I`ll put the head on, do some tuning and tweak the strainer once the old cord is threaded. Oh, by the way, Mike, as a favour, if you ever see a post from me about a P86, just tell me to stop please!

Thanks again,sir. Mush respect to you!

Brian

Just a drummer who loves all things about vintage drums! Nothing more, nothing less.
Posted on 9 years ago
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