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Ludwig Standard with clear (non-Granitone) Interiors?

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Greetings,

These turned up on my local Craigslist (not mine). I also saved some pics from the listing.

https://cincinnati.craigslist.org/msg/d/vintage-ludwig-kit/6299315857.html

Notice the interior of the snare is clear. I know that these were "regular" Ludwig shells (same as the Classic from that time frame) but I have never seen a Standard shell without a Granitone interior. Is it possible that someone stripped off the Granitone? That seems like an awful lot of work, especially without damaging the wrap. I also know that the "Strata" (Blue Strata??) wrap was only found on Standard kits, and not on regular Ludwig kits of the day, so it's not like someone put Standard lugs and badge on a regular Ludwig shell (not sure why you would do that anyway).

If the shell did have the Granitone stripped off, do you think there would be a date stamp under there? Anyways, just curious and wanted to get your thoughts.

Thanks,

V

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Posted on 7 years ago
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Ludwig Standards from the 1968-1973 era can be found with Resa-Cote, Clear Varnish or Granitone interior finish. The Resa-Cote drums tend to have earlier dates and lower serial numbers. There are many of them. Clear Varnish interiors are fewer (in the information that I have gathered) but the ones I have recorded are in the 1970/71 time frame. Although Granitone started with fairly low serial numbers, it was not dominant until later and then became almost exclusive in the 1971 time period. If you have read that all Standard drums had Granitone interiors, the information was incorrect. This is another vintage drum myth.

There are Granitone drums with date stamps, but I do not think that one could strip the Granitone and not affect a date stamp underneath that utilized water soluble ink.

Collecting information about the following for ongoing research projects:
Gretsch drums with serial numbers,
Ludwig Keystone and B/O badge drums with serial numbers and date stamps,
Ludwig Standards from 1968-73, and
Ludwigs with paper labels from 1971-72
www.GretschDrumDatingGuide.com
Posted on 7 years ago
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I was only aware of Standards with both Resa-Cote and Granitone interiors. I had a kit with Resa-Cote. I wasn't aware of clear varnish! Thanks for the history lesson, KC!

-Mark

Posted on 7 years ago
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Thanks for the thorough response!

Forgive my ignorance, but could you provide me an example of Resa-Cote? I'm not recalling what that looks like.

Posted on 7 years ago
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Resacote is the name Ludwig used for the white painted interiors.

Posted on 7 years ago
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Here is a Standard snare with Resa-Cote interior.

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Collecting information about the following for ongoing research projects:
Gretsch drums with serial numbers,
Ludwig Keystone and B/O badge drums with serial numbers and date stamps,
Ludwig Standards from 1968-73, and
Ludwigs with paper labels from 1971-72
www.GretschDrumDatingGuide.com
Posted on 7 years ago
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