Sounds like a deal is in the making!

Mike

Allen was searching for a 9.5 - 10 scale drum to give as a gift and although this is a Gem it is not Mint so back on the market we go...Car Driving2

Hi John,I Am Trying to keep the drum for sale exclusively on this site & wanted to ask as someone who has never sold here, is there anything else I should do to help put this in a deserving drummers hand? Different Pics?, Other Info? Thanks For Your Help;

Dennis

Hi there. It's hard to part with these snares. I mean, if you want another one you're going to probably have to pay more than what you sell it for. And believe me, after selling it you're going to miss it and want it back. I know, I've sold one last year and I haven't found a snare as good as that one since. I tried the Slingerland Sound King thinking that brass is brass and all brass snares sound the same, but I was wrong. The Ludwig 400 COB wins!

Regarding your snare drum, I have my doubts as to whether or not it is brass. Those lugs appear to be the later 1964 to present style imperial lugs and not the earlier, heavy-cast imperial lugs which had a different look, but hard for me to judge without having the drum in my hands. The lack of those imperial lugs would be a deal-breaker for me. All COB Super Ludwigs should have that earlier imperial lug. From where I'm standing your drum does not have those lugs so I am more inclined to believe it is an early, pre-serial Supra-phonic with crimped beds and brass hoops. I really hope I'm wrong. Any photos of the interior of the drum including the flanged inward bearing edge could prove me wrong. The curled bearing edge is the money shot.

Hey I Appreciate the input, I have taken great care to post the pics on my earlier posts showing what you are talking about to determine what I have and this drum has for sure the curled under edge, the weld on the bras shell, along with the brass hoops, crimped snare beds and from what I found researching, some respected experts do not state that the heavy cast lugs are present on every Ludwig Super, but the brass welded shell & the curled flange or bearing edge are it. I also found that Ludwig was famous during this time on using different parts. All I know is this is really a Special snare drum and I would keep it but I no longer play(much) & perform as in the past so I want someone who will Really use it & Enjoy it to take possession of it. Thanks Again

The red felt bat model with crimped beds were first brass, then ludalloy. The true brass indicators would be the curled inner lip and the seam. These would have been the last of the early 60's brass supers. It's most likely that there would have been a transition period going from the heavier lugs to the next design. A transition like this would have taken place during the red felt crimped beds models.

Mike

It's a COB. I've never seen one with those lugs. Very cool!

Mlayton Mike,

So it seems from my research. all the help I have received here and your last comment makes me believe this would be a 1962 or 63' Ludwig Super?

Since the selling thread is closed, I would like the Thank Dennis for selling me this drum. I think at $600, it was a great deal!

It is a nice example of a late COB Super. While the drum is not a 10 or a 9.5, now that I have completely gone through the drum myself, I would give it an 8-8.5. It is a restored drum, with mostly original parts.

The best part? The sound!D' Drummer

Now that I have it set up, it is incredible! I have 2 kits set up in my drum room, and it makes all the cymbals shimmer when I lay into it.Cool1

Sorry Dennis, you can't have it back! Thanks for the right head choice too!

Wow, $35? I'd say you did pretty good on that deal!Yes Sir

As I said before: Go find some more!Car Driving2

Thanks Again, sorry you other guys missed out.DOH