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Ludwig mismatched 70s, is the price ok ? Last viewed: 20 hours ago

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Locally there is this drum for sale:

All drums covered in red sparkle vinyl.

Bass 20 x 14 ludwig 70s,

Floor 18 x 18 Pearl

Floor 16 x 16 ludwig 70s, 2 broken lugs

tom 13 x 9 Ludwig 70s

Snare 14 x 5 Ludwig

no cymbals or hardware.

He is asking 450$. That seems fair, what do you think?

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Posted on 14 years ago
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Nope. Not me. Too much wrong with that one.

Posted on 14 years ago
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i seen that kit in blainville qc it's rough i did not even asked for a better price i just passed

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Posted on 14 years ago
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It just seems like a mish-mash of mediocre stuff. I would just keep looking too.

Are you looking just to get some vintage gear? Then I would probably just focus on a snare drum for instance or invest a bit more money to get a better quality kit. Sometimes it's better to invest a bit more so that your overall "return" is greater.

If you're looking just to get a beater kit, I still would recommend looking around a bit more. If your not bent solely on aquiring vintage you may find some really good deals out there. For instance I came across a Element SE Corey Miller kit for $450 that was in great condition. The Element kits sound really good and if you don't mind tattoo flash as the decorative motif on the kit then this can serve as an example of what deals are available if you're patient.

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Posted on 14 years ago
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I'm not looking for expensive collectable drum, I'm not a drummer and I'm looking for something to have fun and do some recordings. I don't want something that sound "modern", I want a kit that can do a 60s, 70s type of sound.

What should I look to evaluate if it's in good condition ? I thought that if the shell and lugs were not broken that would be ok, but remember, I have to learn everything about drum from the beginning !

Posted on 14 years ago
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hi hows it going i say the kits rough because of the toms bass floor too much mix match not to mention mixed with pearl not good choice for mix. its missing it's badges and vent hole grommet the wrap i dont think the wrap was done very professional the snare could use some work no hardware, broken lugs and so on the list is just to big.i wouldent even try to record with something like that. if your still thinking on buying this kit me i would give him personaly 250 maybe 300 i could use the kit for some parts

80's 13 pc sonor signature
1979 12 pc ludwig power factory
Posted on 14 years ago
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From cccc

I'm not looking for expensive collectable drum, I'm not a drummer and I'm looking for something to have fun and do some recordings. I don't want something that sound "modern", I want a kit that can do a 60s, 70s type of sound.What should I look to evaluate if it's in good condition ? I thought that if the shell and lugs were not broken that would be ok, but remember, I have to learn everything about drum from the beginning !

I'm gonna agree that this one is over priced for what it is. Id keep my eyes peeled for a slingerland kit if I were you. The sound will be what you're after, they are awsome recording drums, and they fit in your price range. Best bang for your buck in my opinion.

Posted on 14 years ago
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From cccc

...I'm looking for something to have fun and do some recordings. I don't want something that sound "modern", I want a kit that can do a 60s, 70s type of sound.

You're kind of chasing unicorns here.... can you honestly say that a '07 Strat would sound more modern than a '57 Strat or a '99 Les Paul would sound more modern than a '59 Les Paul (especially via a recording process)?

I'm going to interpret this more like you are looking for a "good" drum sound, which can come from new or vintage insturments. You just have to trust your ears on this one as "good" is subjective and can mean many things to many people.

When evaluating drums use the same kind of mindset you would with buying a guitar (I'm assuming you play guitar). Look for a couple things right off the bat: condition and completeness.

Condition: Would you buy a guitar that was beat up and just how beat up is beat up? This may indicate how it was treated over time (and there is nothing wrong with buying an insturment that has got some "wear" on it). Would you buy a guitar that has an extra hole in it (if you're not interested in collectability then that extra hole aint going matter much, especially if it isn't affecting playability). Is the body/neck straight?

Completness: Would you buy a guitar that was missing a tuning peg or had mis-match tuning pegs? What if it had non-original pick-ups or tremolo bar? Again if you're not buying for collectability then that becomes a non-issue if it doesn't affect the playability or sound.

How do you apply this guitar purchase analogy to that of a drum? Go down the list of components like you would in a guitar and do the condition and completeness assessment. First off, don't be affraid to have the drum taken down/disassembled.

Look for a drum that is round. An out-of-round drum will be more difficult to tune / stay in tune. Bearing edge (this is what the drum head sits on) should be uniform and not chipped, split, mangled or mutilated. This is also a chance to inspect the quality/condition of the drums interior shell. Check the condition of the hardware... the purpose of the hardware is fairly obvious and you just want to make sure it can still perform that function.

Reassemble and tune it up. This may be difficult to get a sound you like if the heads are beat to hell (like stretched out strings), but you should get an idea of the proximity of sound. Again since you're looking mostly for a fun kit just trust your ears and you'll do alright.

If you have any friends that are drummers lean on them to come along and help with the evaluation while your learning about drum kits.

Posted on 14 years ago
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From Hoppy

You're kind of chasing unicorns here.... can you honestly say that a '07 Strat would sound more modern than a '57 Strat or a '99 Les Paul would sound more modern than a '59 Les Paul (especially via a recording process)?I'm going to interpret this more like you are looking for a "good" drum sound, which can come from new or vintage insturments. You just have to trust your ears on this one as "good" is subjective and can mean many things to many people.When evaluating drums use the same kind of mindset you would with buying a guitar (I'm assuming you play guitar). Look for a couple things right off the bat: condition and completeness. Condition: Would you buy a guitar that was beat up and just how beat up is beat up? This may indicate how it was treated over time (and there is nothing wrong with buying an insturment that has got some "wear" on it). Would you buy a guitar that has an extra hole in it (if you're not interested in collectability then that extra hole aint going matter much, especially if it isn't affecting playability). Is the body/neck straight?Completness: Would you buy a guitar that was missing a tuning peg or had mis-match tuning pegs? What if it had non-original pick-ups or tremolo bar? Again if you're not buying for collectability then that becomes a non-issue if it doesn't affect the playability or sound.How do you apply this guitar purchase analogy to that of a drum? Go down the list of components like you would in a guitar and do the condition and completeness assessment. First off, don't be affraid to have the drum taken down/disassembled.Look for a drum that is round. An out-of-round drum will be more difficult to tune / stay in tune. Bearing edge (this is what the drum head sits on) should be uniform and not chipped, split, mangled or mutilated. This is also a chance to inspect the quality/condition of the drums interior shell. Check the condition of the hardware... the purpose of the hardware is fairly obvious and you just want to make sure it can still perform that function. Reassemble and tune it up. This may be difficult to get a sound you like if the heads are beat to hell (like stretched out strings), but you should get an idea of the proximity of sound. Again since you're looking mostly for a fun kit just trust your ears and you'll do alright.If you have any friends that are drummers lean on them to come along and help with the evaluation while your learning about drum kits.

Couldn't have said it better myself....:D

Posted on 14 years ago
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Since you are looking for recording with a vintage vibe,here is how I look at it,there are two kinds of kits ,collectable and "players" kits.With collectable you are looking for originality,condition,then playability the first two point to how much money you have to pay,and these kits bring top dollar,but top dollar for vintage drums is nothing compared to vintage guitars for the most part, In a players kit I am looking for playability and sound first, then condition mechanical and cosmetic.The players kits to me could have extra holes or non original mounts, faded or damaged wrap,and could have drums from different years but have the same shell construction, but the upside is they cost less,for instance a slingerland 60's kit in original and great condition may go for 800.00 to 1000.00,where a slingy players kit may go for 400.00 to 650.00 and that is cheaper than most good quality entry level kits.A lot of kits will record well but if you are going for a vintage vibe/sound a vintage kit is a good place to start,and the 1970 to 1975 American kits have the same shells as their 1960 counterparts,but can be had for even less money.

Posted on 14 years ago
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