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Live n' learn via eBay - first time taken on the Bay Last viewed: 17 hours ago

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It might be some of my own fault but here but what do you folks think?

I was searching eBay for a 3ply snare shell and this seller came up. Yes, it does not say 3ply in the ad I'll give him that.

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/190640580170?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

But I contacted the seller and said I'm interested in your 3ply shell.

His response was this:

go for it its all cool there are no problems and my drum tec has check it for me it is all there and no problems the berning edge is very good in fact mint

His reply to my interest in the "3ply" added to my interest in the "3ply" drum. He did NOT say - sorry, it's not 3ply. Instead he says "go for it."

I paid $175 plus the shipping and another tax fee at this end bringing the total to just over $250 landed and paid. And I was okay with that because I know 3ply vintage Gretsch shells are not easy to find most of the time. BUT, when I checked the drum it not only was NOT 3ply the "burning edge" is far from "mint." The burning edge should have been a very big clue to how this might play out.

I emailed him - told him I was unhappy with the drum and wanted a refund.

HIS RESPONSE:

hello sorry you are not happy but where did I say three ply never said that. I told my tec what you said and all is not true the badge alone is 50.00

there are no returns as stated I did not mis rep this drum in any way. again sorry you are not happy.

- jsel84

(I added the bolding to his response)

I'm just venting a little here.

I guess I should be happy it wasn't a complete drum or a kit.

Posted on 13 years ago
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Open a case under item not as described. Ebay buyer protection will cover you. I have had to do that with cymbals being cracked and drums being mis represented. Also he wont be able to take the money from Paypal until it is resolved. Good luck

Bobby Myers
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Posted on 13 years ago
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Gary, how many plies is the shell anyway? I'm sorry to hear of your trouble - I too, recommend the "Not as represented" and claim that the bearing edges are jacked, which I am inferring they are from what you've said. Can you post a pic of the edges?

*edit* So the guy is a stripper. Here is one of his previous auctions. http://www.ebay.ca/itm/190642313567#ht_3109wt_1185

Posted on 13 years ago
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Thanks everybody.

Track - the drum is definately 6ly (or so) NOT three I can tell that much. I will get some photos up later. The edges are not bad but they are not "mint."

The funny thing is - I bought 8 lugs and mounting hardware from him a few days after I bought the drum - not even thinking....hey, wait a minute, the lugs are probably off this drum. I've been buying a lot of parts lately and I just did not recognize the seller was the same guy....until I took legacy drummer and fuse's advice right away and went to Paypal to start to resolve. Then I saw it on the item I.D. list. Too funny. Maybe that MS strainer in your link was off my 'mint' drum.

Posted on 13 years ago
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Gary, First off the shell is a 6 ply shell not a 3 ply.I would open a case with P/P on that and get a refund on the shell....Mikey

Posted on 13 years ago
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Gary, sorry it didn't work out for you. But I gotta tell ya, I don't see where the gent did anything wrong ... other than ripping apart vintage drums and butchering the kings English ... both of which should be outlawed! He said the edges were just "good" in the auction write up. I think (sorry) that you are a bit out of line on this one. It appears that you are bumming it's not 3ply and are dissatisfied. Problem is, he never stated how many plies and you never asked. Again, sorry man.

What Would You Do
Posted on 13 years ago
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With a very sparse description and 1 picture it's hard to tell what your getting. I hope you both can work it out.

Glenn.

Not a guru just havin fun with some old dusty drums.
Posted on 13 years ago
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The seller was evasive in his response to your statement referring to the shell as 3-ply.

He had the opportunity to resolve a customer complaint and didn't.

Ebay is taking the buyer's side on most customer complaints.

I think you have a good chance at getting your funds returned, whether either you or the seller was as specific as they could be or not.

Good luck!

Kev

Kevin
Posted on 13 years ago
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I agree with RogerSling. The only leverage you have is the bearing edges, but the pics so far don't show any problems.

Posted on 13 years ago
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I don't 'totally' agree with the fact that because he did not specifically say the drum was 3ply that I don't have a case.

Like I said in the beginning and in my question to the seller....."I'm interested in your 3PLY SHELL" (my emphasis here).....and his reply "go for it no problems" could be taken as being evasive and not describing the drum to me in a reasonable way.

I mean....if one of you answered an ad for my 6ply shell and said "I'm interested in your 3ply shell....I'd be less than honest by answering you by saying "go for it".........don't you think? And the edges....yes - there not bad to good at best.........but .....NOT mint. I'm not really complaining on that issue anyway.....just mostly "bumming" as RogerSling says about the drum not being 3ply.

I'll try for a refund.....if not I will paint it Cadillac Green and maybe put Gold hardware on it :D and add it to the collection.

Posted on 13 years ago
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