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Early '64 Ludwig Dates? Last viewed: 1 hour ago

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Hi all,

I've got a line on what I think is an early- to mid-1964 22/14", 16/16", 13/9" set. (Either a Super Classic or a Hollywood minus one rack tom. There's a hole for a center mount, but there are also holes for a consolette.)

The serial numbers are 51511 for the BD and 51605 for the rack tom. The floor tom is missing its badge. There are no date stamps on the interiors, but I'm estimating these were made in April or May of '64 based on what I've seen in the various online charts.

To get a more realistic idea of the dates, I wanted to ask if anyone has drums in this serial range with date codes? If so, would you mind posting or PM-ing me the dates?

Regarding the missing badge, does anyone offer a stamping service with the correct font size/style? If I can get the info on what the number was on that badge, I'm giving some thought to getting a repro or pre-serial badge to install where the old one used to be.

Thanks,

John

Posted on 14 years ago
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john

thats probably a super classic kit in which someone added a center mount like so many did. the hollywood kits in 64 had two 12's.

ive got a database of 64/65 serial numbers and dates. lots of the drums.most,from that period had no date stamps or either got cleaned off accidentally.

here are a few that i have documented.

45397 april 64

31944 april 64

26636 may 8 64

28277 may 18 64

17542 mar 20 64

31403 apr 30 64

31505 spr 23 64

33977 may 8 64

32326 may 4 64

31241 apr 22 64

hope this helps some.

mike

Posted on 14 years ago
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Hi Mike,

Thanks for your info. Interesting that the date progression doesn't have a direct correlation to serial number progression. However, that would reinforce what I've read in interviews with the Ludwig staff who said that they would just get boxes of badges and randomly pull from that stock without any thought to sequence. As we can all imagine, the main thing the factory wanted to do was get these things out the door to meet market demand. I'm certain no one on that assembly line was thinking that a half century later there would be a group of people trying to make a correlation between the badges and the dates. (Or maybe they were thinking exactly that and they purposefully mixed up the serial numbers. I smell a conspiracy in the air.)

Again, thanks for your input. Great stuff to have.

John

Posted on 14 years ago
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