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Best Wrap Vendor for Onyx Finishes Last viewed: 8 hours ago

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I am interested in comments about the best vendor to use for wrap that will come as close as possible to the onyx finishes Rogers used in the 60's. I note that Slingerland used a similar wrap called agate pearls, and these tend to have a different look. The Rogers onyx material had more luster and had greater depth in my view.

Observations thus far:

1. Precision seems to have a closer match to the originals in respect of the luster and depth. However, the current material has a more linear pattern and the waves of color tend to be cut off by horizontal streams of black. Overall, pretty close though. I have used this wrap before in red, blue and black versions, with red and blue coming closer to original than black. They recommend that it be applied using contact cement in its entirety and that is my preferred method, as well.

2. Jammin Sam's material seems to be closer in huge and pattern to what was used by Slingerland. It also does not appear to have the linear effect I see in the Precision wrap. I have never used Jammin Sam's wrap.

3. Both seem to imply the origin is the same firm that produced the material for Rogers and Slingerland in the 60's. I understand that firm to be Delmar. I do wonder if one firm is ordering/receiving a different material (maybe for reasons of distinguishing their products) and that one might in fact be closer to a Rogers onyx and the other closer to a Slingerland agate.

Any and all comments will be appreciated, both in the forum and by PM if you chose. Pictures of completed works will be highly appreciated and I will provide a direct email address through PM to increase the capture of the details.

Thanks in advance.

Posted on 10 years ago
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I matched an 18 rogers to my blue onyx 12 13 16 22 kit With the

precision company . It was perfect. Luckily my rogers kit is almost flawless. I thought the pattern was spot on. The ONLY thing that i could notice, was the new wrap versus a very minute amount of fade on mine.

Jason

Posted on 10 years ago
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They both source it from Delmar (who was not necessarily the source of the original wraps in the 60's and 70's...some [most] of that was bought from DuPont and Monsanto). Delmar offers a lot more different finishes than what either of these wrap distributors offer so there may be two or more types of these onyxs available, but I'd be more prone to suspect that they each are simply offering sheets from different batches (each batch is supposed to yield around 500 sheets of wrap) and any differences come from being from different batches.

DFO forum member Wrap Guru is associated with Delmar so you might try to hit him up via PM on that forum to get the scoop. I'm not sure how often he actually checks in there but he did drop by about a month ago after a long absence.

Posted on 10 years ago
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OK, thanks guys. Interesting to find that DuPont and Monsanto were putting out the wraps in the 60's and 70's. Moved on to other products no doubt. Good news that the blue onyx was right on for you Eminent Destiny.

As to DFO, I haven't kept track of that site. Seems to be little traffic and I simply lose touch with it. But I'll check in to see if I can get a response.

Thanks again!

Posted on 10 years ago
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I have samples of the Onyx wraps from both Precision and Jammin Sam. Slight differences, especially with the Black Onyx, but I'd attribute these to different batches. Sometimes, you never know what you'll get!

-Mark

Posted on 10 years ago
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That horizontal streams of black are very noticeable. I see it in every new Midnight Blue Pearl wrap. I'd like to find the "batch" that doesn't show that. If you come upon this magical "batch", let me know.

Posted on 10 years ago
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