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babygbass75 05-25-2015 09:28 AM

Rogers Holiday Black Value
 
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Hi,
I am new to this forum and could use some help pricing a set of drums. I believe they were made in 1968. It's a 4 pc black Rogers Holiday Kit. No snare or hardware but in mint condition. Also a bit of a back story to them but none of it is documented.
This kit belonged to Uncle John Turner, Johnny Winters' drummer and the word has it that he took them with him to Woodstock in '69 but because it was so wet and the musicians had to be flown in via helicopter, he wasn't actually able to play them there.
The 8x12 tom is missing the tag with the serial number. All the others have them. I'm not a drummer so I may be getting these sizes wrong but I'll give it a valiant effort.

Bass-15x20 Ser#95134
Floor-16x16 Ser#98368
Tom-9x13 Ser#90492
Tom-8x12 No Tag

Can someone please point me in the right direction in terms of asking price?

RIMS n SKINS 05-25-2015 03:41 PM

Re: Rogers Holiday Black Value
 
Looks good...
Without a snare....& extra hardware...about $700/800 range.
Best of luck.

Dan Boucher 05-25-2015 11:40 PM

Re: Rogers Holiday Black Value
 
If the history can be demonstrated, and it seems it cannot, that would have tended to increase its value. However, RimsandSkins is probably close to what one would normally pay though I think even that might be a little high. I going to venture a guess that it was originally a set bought with a 14x20 bass, 9x13 mounted tom and 16x16 floor tom with a single tom arm mount used on the left side of the bass and an 'L' arm for a ride cymbal. The 8x12 was probably added later. I speculate on the 9x13 being the main tom, since it was built to be located on the left hand side and so the Rogers script and tone control are not visible. That is also the more likely reason it is the 12" tom that does not have a paper tag inside, since it was probably ordered as a single drum when the double tom mount was added to the bass drum. I think it would sell better as the original 20,13,16 set-up using a single tom arm. Sell off the double tom mount and put a single Swivomatic mount up from for a straight hex splash rod. The sell the 12 as a single. Just my view.

The Ploughman 05-26-2015 12:56 AM

Re: Rogers Holiday Black Value
 
I would seriously doubt the provenance of a "road used" set that is "mint" describable 50 years later.

Wayne Brown 05-26-2015 02:05 AM

Re: Rogers Holiday Black Value
 
+ 1 to both Dan and Ploughmans guidance here and Rims n skins price range, as these guys really know their Rogers stuff and i believe you can take that to the bank.Best of luck with your sale.

Wayne

babygbass75 05-26-2015 01:30 PM

Re: Rogers Holiday Black Value
 
Thank you guys very much for your insight. I really don't want to sell them but times are hard. They were property of my drummer who passed away in 2009. He had 14 sets of Rogers at the time of his death and his girlfriend is the one that told me he had bought them from Uncle John Turner.
I will take all the info under advisement. Thanks once again!

Babygbass75

The Ploughman 05-26-2015 07:20 PM

Re: Rogers Holiday Black Value
 
Don't misunderstand. I am not saying they weren't, but mythical provenance is not provenance. I have a Rogers 6.5 XP10 Maple Dyna-Sonic that according to the seller, who is pretty reliable and well known, once belonged to a very famous drummer of the 60s-70s- and 80s. However, I have nothing definitive to prove that drum, and so, the information is simply something I have and do not mention in connection with the drum.
The XP10 SuperTen I own that was built for Gina Schock of the Go-Go's, however, did have good provenance, and has been confirmed by both the builder from Rogers and Ms. Schock. Signatures of both are on the inside of the drum. That makes good provenance.

babygbass75 05-27-2015 06:57 PM

Re: Rogers Holiday Black Value
 
Just out of curiosity, would anyone care to venture a guess based on the serial number on what year these were manufactured. The tags say Dayton.

eamesuser 05-27-2015 11:02 PM

Re: Rogers Holiday Black Value
 
dayton era drums were made 1966-68, the bass drum t rods on yours would probably make them latter half of 1966-68.

RIMS n SKINS 05-28-2015 09:36 PM

Re: Rogers Holiday Black Value
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by eamesuser (Post 350579)
dayton era drums were made 1966-68, the bass drum t rods on yours would probably make them latter half of 1966-68.

Show us pics of the interior shell color & tags pls..


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