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Chicago Dave 01-01-2021 02:08 AM

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I have decided to post my cymbals. Mostly old As, a few old Italians, at least one old J that baffles me a bit. I would love to post a sound file, but all my sound files sound terrible. I'm interested in figuring out how to do proper recordings. Later.

To start things off, here's an 18" pre-trans / second stamp / whatever you want to call it. 1375 grams.

Found on ebay, marked below market value and misidentified, if I remember correctly.

Someone drilled the hell out of it. Someone else (perhaps) used a Scotch-Brite pad to "polish" it. It has some flea bites. No cracks.

Chicago Dave 01-03-2021 11:58 PM

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Here's an outstanding 20" Italian, 1712 grams. Not sure of age, but hand hammered and sounds amazing. Really dark and mellow.

Chicago Dave 01-04-2021 12:08 AM

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Here's an odd one. 19" Alejian, 1529 grams. It plays with more heft than expected, and structurally, it's not very flexible.

As far I know, this was the largest size they made. Under the bell you can see a price and diameter written in China marker. I'd like to believe that the writing under the bell is original, but I find that to be unlikely.

mlayton 01-04-2021 10:57 AM

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Great stuff Dave. Keep 'em coming.

Mike

slingerfan 01-04-2021 12:56 PM

Re: Humble Collection of Old A, Italian, and misc.
 
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Originally Posted by Chicago Dave (Post 465911)
Here's an odd one. 19" Alejian, 1529 grams. It plays with more heft than expected, and structurally, it's not very flexible.

As far I know, this was the largest size they made. Under the bell you can see a price and diameter written in China marker. I'd like to believe that the writing under the bell is original, but I find that to be unlikely.

If the price marking is original it may be a clue to the year of the cymbal. Price in '61 catalog is $38.00. Price in '63 & '64 catalogs is $42.00. Price in '65 & '67 catalogs is $46.00.

Chicago Dave 01-04-2021 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by slingerfan (Post 465928)
If the price marking is original it may be a clue to the year of the cymbal. Price in '61 catalog is $38.00. Price in '63 & '64 catalogs is $42.00. Price in '65 & '67 catalogs is $46.00.

Excellent info there. Thank you. Here's a closer image of the writing.

Chicago Dave 01-04-2021 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by mlayton (Post 465921)
Great stuff Dave. Keep 'em coming.

Mike

Thanks, Mike. I think you've seen most of these, but it's been a while.

Chicago Dave 01-04-2021 11:30 PM

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Here's one I picked up at the 2010(?) Chicago Drum Show.

1960s stamp 20", 1682 grams.

Classic A sound, but with something more. Flexible. Fast decay and very easy to control.

levelpebble 01-05-2021 12:09 PM

Re: Humble Collection of Old A, Italian, and misc.
 
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Originally Posted by Chicago Dave (Post 465834)
I have decided to post my cymbals. Mostly old As, a few old Italians, at least one old J that baffles me a bit. I would love to post a sound file, but all my sound files sound terrible. I'm interested in figuring out how to do proper recordings. Later.

To start things off, here's an 18" pre-trans / second stamp / whatever you want to call it. 1375 grams.

Found on ebay, marked below market value and misidentified, if I remember correctly.

Someone drilled the hell out of it. Someone else (perhaps) used a Scotch-Brite pad to "polish" it. It has some flea bites. No cracks.

That double stamp is remarkable. I love mulligans.

Drumaholic 01-05-2021 05:47 PM

Re: Humble Collection of Old A, Italian, and misc.
 
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Originally Posted by Chicago Dave (Post 465911)
Here's an odd one. 19" Alejian, 1529 grams. It plays with more heft than expected, and structurally, it's not very flexible.

As far I know, this was the largest size they made. Under the bell you can see a price and diameter written in China marker. I'd like to believe that the writing under the bell is original, but I find that to be unlikely.

I would be willing to bet that the writing behind the bell is original. I've seen many cymbals with size and price info written just like that.

In fact I've often used that info to match up to the prices on price lists in order to establish or confirm dates that coincide with the trademarks.

Nice cymbals by the way.


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