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Rogers Blue Onyx Drum Value Last viewed: 3 hours ago

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Hi All,

This is my first post here. I'm looking for some help with a potential purchase. I'm looking at a supposedly mint and farely rare configuration. It's a 3 pc 13-16-22 Ohio era kit. I'm told it's rare for 2 reasons:because most Rogers were sold with 20" BD, and the fact that it's a single tom configuration with a 22. BD has factory swivo cymbal mount.

I'm a newbie to vintage and not a collector. I just like the looks of these kits and have decided to acquire get rid of some kit to include them in the mix. What I do hate is paying too much due to lack of experience and knowledge so perhaps someone here can advise on what price range would be reasonable.

Thanks in advance.

Posted on 14 years ago
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I think those sizes would fall into a Celebrity "stock" sized config from the mid sixties. The Drum Guide has catalog scans that may help ID the outfit.

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Kevin
Posted on 14 years ago
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Be careful. "Mint" automatically puts up a red flag with me. That blue wrap is available from some websites and is close enough to the original to fool the uninformed. I've seen several kits in the last year, both Slingerland and Rogers, wearing 'new' wrap that was advertised as original. The Rogers version was very prone to cracking. If you see NO cracks, it would be very suspect. Get some pics and have one of us confirm the authenticity of the hardware and such. These are fairly easy to dress up and fool the potential buyers. If it is original and mint ... SWEEEEEET kit. My favorite sizes for Rogers drums.

Posted on 14 years ago
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Thanks guys for the info. Yes, I've been told by a friend who knows a fair bit about vintage that these wraps do tend to crack. The truth is I haven't asked for close-up of the drums yet and have not gotten the full lowdown on the kit assuming it's mint as he hasn't volunteered any obvious flaws. I trust him enough to do that. We are at a stage where unless I'm interested in the price range, I do not want to waste his time with details yet. so if you guys can give me an idea I'll decide if I should take the next steps. I've attached the only photo I have right now. Let me know what you think?

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Posted on 14 years ago
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Looks pretty cool. It's blue and the hardware is silver. Neato.

Posted on 14 years ago
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It's a Starlighter or Starlighter IV depending on the year. What are the serial numbers and type of paper SN badges, interior color?

1972 Sonor Custom (Swinger)
1973-74 Rogers Starlighter IV Blue Onyx
1982 Slingerland TDR-Lite Marching Snare White Gloss Pearl
Posted on 14 years ago
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From RadarSonor

It's a Starlighter or Starlighter IV depending on the year. What are the serial numbers and type of paper SN badges, interior color?

So they would be Fullerton (Cali.) Drums, and not from the Cleveland or Dayton Ohio days?

Kevin
Posted on 14 years ago
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Is the original snare in the back, and what is it? A Powertone, Dynasonic...Wood or Chrome over Brass....or Chrome over steel? To get an accurate ballpark idea, these are other questions that might be pertinent. See, a snare can add significantly to the value.

You are asking us to shoot in the dark. There are still many more questions than answers. A Cleveland kit could be worth a bit more than a Fullerton kit....see, we are not trying to be vague, but with this little bit of info, we are looking a huge number of variables.

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Posted on 14 years ago
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You will need to provide some additional information for us to assess the kit. The tags inside the shells (Cleveland, Dayton or FUllerton), the interior of the shells (flat grey or speckled grey), the lug mounting screws (slotted heads of hex heads) and the colors of the mufflers (grey or white).

Based on what I have seen, Rogers 22" bass drums are rare from the Cleveland beavertail era. In fact I have seen about as many Cleveland 18" bass drums as I have seen Cleveland 22" beavertail bass drums. They became more common in the Dayton era and alot more common in the Fullerton era.

Strickly based on the T-handles on the bass drum, it appears you have at least a Dayton era kit, but my bet is that it is a Fullerton era kit.

Hope that helps.

Posted on 14 years ago
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If you should decide to pass on this kit let me know.

Thanks

Posted on 14 years ago
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