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How to tell the ply of a slingerland

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Hi, I have a 1965 WMP Slingerland With a P on the inside and a sn of 72,000

Has Zoomatic strainer and a single muffler with a small knob, not the big one. Black and gold niles badge. But I dont know how to tell the ply of the drum, I cant tell the difference between the reinforcement ring and the shell. Is there a way to tell that I am unaware of?

I think its a single ply artist model (and I really really hope it is...picked it up for 145 :P)

Thanks everyone

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From OldSchoolDrummer101

Hi, I have a 1965 WMP Slingerland With a P on the inside and a sn of 72,000Has Zoomatic strainer and a single muffler with a small knob, not the big one. Black and gold niles badge. But I dont know how to tell the ply of the drum, I cant tell the difference between the reinforcement ring and the shell. Is there a way to tell that I am unaware of? I think its a single ply artist model (and I really really hope it is...picked it up for 145 :P)Thanks everyone

Hi,By looking at the color of the wood.Does the snare shell look the same color when looking at the edges? If so then the shell is a one ply shell,If not then the shell is a 3 ply shell..Mikey

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Im looking at it and the reinforcement ring is a different color than the rest of the drum. So im seeing two colors

thanks

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[IMG]http://photos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs154.ash2/41057_1581326697106_1353844772_31572206_7906903_a.jpg[/IMG]

here is an image of it

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Your drum is 3 ply,the ring is maple,the shell is not..Mikey

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From MIKEY777

Your drum is 3 ply,the ring is maple,the shell is not..Mikey

Are you sure about that? It looks one ply to me (although the pic is a little small).

It's definitely not a maple shell but Slingerland also made single ply walnut and mahogany shells.

From what I can see in the pic, that looks like it might possibly be a single ply walnut (or mahogany) shell with a maple ring.

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From KapperDog

Are you sure about that? It looks one ply to me (although the pic is a little small).It's definitely not a maple shell but Slingerland also made single ply walnut and mahogany shells.From what I can see in the pic, that looks like it might possibly be a single ply walnut (or mahogany) shell with a maple ring.

Probably not in the sixties

Back in the 20s, 30s, and very early 40s they did.... not in the sixties.

Check out the article on Slingerland wood shells by the good Doctor in the Drum Guide.

Again, a better pic or three would help a lot.

Kevin
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I can see the solid maple reinforcement ring and then I can also see a thin maple ply. Therefore, it must be a ply drum shell. Since it was from the 60's, it's almost certain the center ply is a "secondary" wood. My guess would be a 3-ply shell with the outer ply being maple or mahogany, the inner core ply being poplar and the interior ply being maple.

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From O-Lugs

I can see the solid maple reinforcement ring and then I can also see a thin maple ply. Therefore, it must be a ply drum shell. Since it was from the 60's, it's almost certain the center ply is a "secondary" wood. My guess would be a 3-ply shell with the outer ply being maple or mahogany, the inner core ply being poplar and the interior ply being maple.

I think you are right on the money man, and you eat a lot of carrots !!......:):)

Kevin
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Interesting, I also have a similar situation with one of my snares. It's an 8 lug WMP Gold and Black Niles badge #78726. That dates it to the early/mid 60's. It has a zoomatic strainer and the extended snare butt end, a muffler and the Slingy triple flange hoops. That hardware configuration should make it an Artist series snare as no other model should be set up that way. The catalogs only show the Artist series with the zoomatic and extended butt end. So I was sure that it was a single ply Artist as the catalogs state that all the Artist series are single ply. However, upon close examination I do see that it is a 3 ply shell, maple/poplar/and then that dark mahogany outer layer. It also has the "P" stamp which usually designates the mahagony outer ply for a pearl covering.

So my question is: Did they make the Artist series with a 3 ply shell? And if so why do the catalogs specify that the Artist models all have a single ply shell?

Hmmmm

Early 60's WMP Slingerland Model 1N "Krupa Kit" 9X13, 16X16, 16X18, 14X22, 1956 WMP Student Radio King.

Early 70's Walnut Slingerland "Mini Krupa Kit" 8X12, 14X14, 16X16, 14X22, 1955 Mahogany 4X13 "Junior" snare with tube lugs & 3 point strainer.

Late 70's Maple Slingerland 6-8-10 concert toms, 8X12, 9X13, 10X14, 16X16, 16X18, 2 - 14X22, COB Krupa & COW Rich snares.

Working on a 70's Maple Slingerland 8X12, 15X15, 16X18, 14X22, "nesting" kit, 1958 Maple Student Radio King.

jags
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