Hi,
I recently came across a 1920's Ludwig kit with the large kick drum, snare drum, snare drum stand, cymbal boom, wood block, slide whistle, ratchet crank thing, triangle with striker, pedal with extra little arm for striking the adjacent little cymbal, castanet paddle but is Missing the Chinese tom drum.
Heads on the bass drum are broken snare heads are OK
Any idea what it is worth?
Thanks!
yes that's the one...What's it worth?
Thanks!
Well, out of respect to the seller, HE values them at $750 for VDF members (us!), so I can only tell you that that's what they are worth to him.
Old drum sets like that are really historically wonderful, but they aren't always the most practical tools for gigging drummers. So, they often lose value in that area. That set is almost complete, though. As an antique object, it very well may be worth that price. It really depends on your perspective.
To re-skin that 28" bass drum with calfskins is going to be almost nearly impossible. I don't even know who custom makes 28" calfskin heads. So, if you wanted a fully-functioning drum set in this style, you will have to find some old calfskin heads somewhere or you will have to try and find someone to custom make you some....or you can try and use synthetic heads....but then, if you did that, the antique aspects of its attraction would be diminished and the sound would be different, too -in case you wanted to use them to gig with.
-just FYI...When I got a new custom-fit calfskin head for my Sherwood snare drum, it cost me nearly $90 for the batter head, alone! I can only imagine what a set of 28" diameter calfskins would cost! Good lord!
It really depends on what your desires are. To some, that's one of the coolest, most complete antique kits around. To others, it's just eye-candy and completely impractical. You decide!Kleening
To re-skin that 28" bass drum with calfskins is going to be almost nearly impossible. I don't even know who custom makes 28" calfskin heads. So, if you wanted a fully-functioning drum set in this style, you will have to find some old calfskin heads somewhere or you will have to try and find someone to custom make you some....or you can try and use synthetic heads....but then, if you did that, the antique aspects of its attraction would be diminished and the sound would be different, too -in case you wanted to use them to gig with.-just FYI...When I got a new custom-fit calfskin head for my Sherwood snare drum, it cost me nearly $90 for the batter head, alone! I can only imagine what a set of 28" diameter calfskins would cost! Good lord!It really depends on what your desires are. To some, that's one of the coolest, most complete antique kits around. To others, it's just eye-candy and completely impractical. You decide!Kleening
One thing to keep in mine,is that on the older vintage calfskin drums--always keep the wood or metal ring that the head was on..It make's it less harder to fine a head that will work..Mikey
Exactly, Mikey! I found that out the hard way! Actually, when I got my Sherwood snare drum, it already had synthetic heads on it, so I never had the original calfskin hoops to begin with. I had to ship the drum to Rob Cook and have him make me the hoop and then skin it with a nice white Irish calfskin.
But, to re-skin a 28" bass drum is going to be costly! Wow! I can't even imagine what that would cost! Anyone???
I suppose the most common method would be to go synthetic -maybe Fiberskins (Do they even still make those?). I think that, in most cases, even a synthetic 28" head would likely have to be special ordered. It's not a common size. I know Abe Laborial Jr. plays on a DW kit that has a 28" bass drum, so I assume there is a source for those heads, but I have no idea what they would cost, either.
I dunno, man...It's a cool drum set, but, for me, kits like that are really more "drum sculptures" than they are useful tools for making music in the modern world of today. I know when I go into an art gallery, the sculptures are a lot more costly, but never as cool*
I find it difficult to valuate such items other than as historical conversation pieces meant for looking at more than they are meant for playing. I mean, once you put the correct heads on that baby, you're looking at a drum kit that rivals or exceeds the cost of a vintage Ludwig Classic or Standard kit. I'm pretty sure I couldn't even fit a 28" bass drum into my car!
* = I may not know art, but I know what I like! ;)Car Driving2
After shipping, the Columbia 28" heads that would do a 24" drum are $33 each. I'm gonna guess that 32" heads will cost you $45 each. I'm not sure what the flesh hoops will run but let's say $15 each. So maybe $60 a head if you went that route. Maybe triple if you didn't.
For me, calf heads cost less than plastic. My kick calf head is fine and it's from the 1940's. I wouldn't hesitate to take it on any gig tonight. When I was using Remo Ambassadors on my snare I'd change the head every week. I gave a 2 ft stack of them away one time. The guy thought I was nuts for giving them away... I thought he was nuts for taking them.
Exactly, Mikey! I found that out the hard way! Actually, when I got my Sherwood snare drum, it already had synthetic heads on it, so I never had the original calfskin hoops to begin with. I had to ship the drum to Rob Cook and have him make me the hoop and then skin it with a nice white Irish calfskin.But, to re-skin a 28" bass drum is going to be costly! Wow! I can't even imagine what that would cost! Anyone??? I suppose the most common method would be to go synthetic -maybe Fiberskins (Do they even still make those?). I think that, in most cases, even a synthetic 28" head would likely have to be special ordered. It's not a common size. I know Abe Laborial Jr. plays on a DW kit that has a 28" bass drum, so I assume there is a source for those heads, but I have no idea what they would cost, either.I dunno, man...It's a cool drum set, but, for me, kits like that are really more "drum sculptures" than they are useful tools for making music in the modern world of today. I know when I go into an art gallery, the sculptures are a lot more costly, but never as cool*I find it difficult to valuate such items other than as historical conversation pieces meant for looking at more than they are meant for playing. I mean, once you put the correct heads on that baby, you're looking at a drum kit that rivals or exceeds the cost of a vintage Ludwig Classic or Standard kit. I'm pretty sure I couldn't even fit a 28" bass drum into my car!* = I may not know art, but I know what I like! ;)Car Driving2
O-Lugs, You are so right about that keeping the ring's off the drum..I have a lot of these ring's 12,13,14--snare top and bottom's--16,20,22,24,26,28,in wood and matel,I still used them from time to time in restoring drums..Mikey
I think that, in most cases, even a synthetic 28" head would likely have to be special ordered. It's not a common size. I know Abe Laborial Jr. plays on a DW kit that has a 28" bass drum, so I assume there is a source for those heads...
28" is a pretty common size for small concert bass drums, so Fiberskyn bass heads are pretty easy to find in that size and run about $50 each.
