I sent the thread from the DFO to Reverb and told them this isn't being well recieve by the drum community at all !! No reply thus far from Reverb.

This may be a silly question but what is wrong with this? Is the kit not original? I truthfully have no idea, but would like to.

It's a vintage kit that is similar to the kit Ringo used for his first few months in the Beatles. That actual kit was traded in towards his first Ludwig kit in 1963 and then resold and is still lost to the ages. The kit on reverb was a kit that someone (apparently a "fan") found and then gave to Ringo because it was similar to that first kit. Ringo didn't do anything with the drums though, they simply went into a storage locker until this past December when they were sold (for $17,000). So technically they were Ringo's drums but they were never played by him, in the Beatles or in any other setting. The sales description for the set never quite says these drums are the set Ringo used in the Beatles (and they definitely are not) but never quite says they aren't either. Someone with more money than brains just might jump on them thinking they are buying a piece of musical history rather than an (apparently) unwanted gift.

Ok that makes sense as to why it stinks. That's pretty crappy that would elude that he used them, even though he didn't.

It has a disclaimer:

"The Kit For Sale

The kit offered is an original Premier Duroplastic Kit circa 1960 that was purchased directley from Ringo Starr of the Beatles , we cannot state that the Kit Offered was used on any Specific Studio or Live Performances by Ringo Starr only that it carries the same Specification as the Kit used on many early Beatles Recordings Pre 1964"

What can we say, but: Caveat Emptor

I think most vintage drum collectors would automatically know that he never played or used the kit for anything..At least if he used it in a video or something, it would kinda be worth it..As it stands, no drum collector in their right mind would buy that kit at the asking price, unless they;re extremely wealthy and ignorant. LoLoLoLo

:2Cents: I guess if you're a serious Beatles guy, with the Ludwig black oyster and all the trimmings, then the chances of actually owning the real thing are astronomically bad (unless you're loaded), so buying the same model would be the next best thing. I can see this selling, but the price, regardless of the "provenance" (I put that in quotes since Ringo may well have owned them, but never played them, at least as far as we know), is a trifle ridiculous for what it is. What would that Premier kit be worth in a regular drum shop for the average man-on-the-street? Perhaps you could bung a bit more on the price because Ringo owned them and possibly touched them at one time, and they lived in his storeroom, but you couldn't really go mental and bump it up to stupid proportions.

But they have put in the disclaimer so, yeah, I agree with Dan - caveat emptor. Always read the fine print! :2Cents:

I agree with that too! :D

The original wording for that listing was extremely misleading. It has since been changed to have a "sort of" disclaimer in the last paragraph but is still not as clear as it could be.