this one sounds really really good. 50's 18"
What's this one worth?
Can't see the stamp and you didn't mention the weight.
BosLover
don't know the weight. 1500 grams'ish. fairly light and moderately bendable.
50's small stamp. 1 3/16th's inches tall.
don't know the weight. 1500 grams'ish. fairly light and moderately bendable. 50's small stamp. 1 3/16th's inches tall.
Thanks for the feedback but I won't comment on a stamp without seeing it first.
BosLover
Ill post a pic here in a second.
Also wondering, how doeas a stamp change any of the info ive already stated?
I gotta say...
The weight is Very important,....as well a clear pic of the stamp..
also a clear pic of the cymbal / showing where the stamp is located and over all size of the stamp / how far in from the edge is also needed and a pic of the lathing of the cym..
Is it a ride or crash or combo..
Pic showing the bell would help..** Any faded ink logo..? or Signature..?
When I have a cym in my hands / I can usually determine this in a Cpl mins...
When its thru pics and words ...it takes more time and a lot of questions need to be answered to get the right info...
meaning the value starts at $75 for that cymbal and goes up to $200

ROGER's
1964 Cleveland,.18/14/12 in WMP
1966 Cleveland, 20/14/12 O'natural.
Fullerton,...20/16/13/12 Silver Glass
WFL
1957 B/R Super Classics In WMP
Snares..
Wood & COB Powertones,
Wood & COB Dynasonics,
57 Jazz Festival
Zildjian avedis cymbals.
40s/60s era.
Here's the stamp. i'll get a measuring tape out for the rest. brb
The stamp starts at 1 3/4 inches in from the edge
stamp is located at 12 o'clock in overhead picture of top of cymbal
i don't see any ink on it, but it's got a lot of club dirt on it.
gonna go run some errands.
i'll take it by the post office to weigh.
Also wondering, how does a stamp change any of the info ive already stated?
That's actually an interesting question to me (remembering I'm a statistician and scientist and what interests me doesn't always interest others). Some of the info you have stated would still stand independent of the stamp. For example:
[INDENT]18" diameter
1500g weight (more or less)
1 3/16" tall stamp
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This one:
[INDENT]sounds really good[/INDENT]
isn't measured on a scale which anybody can agree on. :D
When presented with partial information about a cymbal (particularly in the age of the internet with "remote buying") stamp eras are believed to either:
[INDENT]indicate enough of the sonic properties to help fill in the picture
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or
[INDENT]indicate more about what the expected price range should be (eg: Trans stamps go for more than 1970s cymbals other things being equal)
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Weight is similarly a proxy for how a cymbal might sound. For example I would think differently about your cymbal if you said it was 1200g vs 1500g vs 1800g. But "exact" weight isn't such a big deal to me. So I'm not concerned if the "exact" weight is 1500g or 1450g or 1550g. By 1650g I'm thinking there is a difference. This is entirely my mind at work until I hear a sound file. A decent sound file trumps beliefs about sonic properties from weight.
The weight is a factor in predicting price (along with the stamp era). Thin is in (another way of saying: thinner A Zildjian cymbals tend to have a higher expected price other things being equal).
You'll have to check with Mark (Boslover) about why he insists on a picture, but I suspect he doesn't know you therefore doesn't trust you to be able to pick the era of a stamp properly. Whereas I know you read my detailed post on this which has since been erased by the database fallback. ;)
I did take the precaution of backing it up and it will come back online at my own web site pretty soon. I'm still working on a few editorial improvements.
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