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New Serial Number Based Dating Guide for Vintage Ludwig Drums

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As a follow up to my dating guide for Gretsch drums released in 2011, I am proud to announce that I have written a new (and I think much improved) serial number based dating guide for Ludwig drums. It covers Ludwig’s main line drums produced from late 1963 through 1984 and Ludwig’s second line Standard brand drums produced from 1968 to about 1973. I relied upon a database of more than 6,300 drums when preparing this paper. I provide methods for estimating the date of Ludwig drums based upon their serial numbers and summarize major changes in characteristics like badges, hardware and interior finishes, linking each to date and serial number ranges when the changes occur. I also evaluate the strengths and limitations of each of the dating guides already in print.

I provide a lot of background about my methodology and data gathering, so the reader will know precisely how I reached my conclusions. If you have seen my Gretsch paper, you will recognize the approach. Yes, that means it looks like a research paper complete with footnotes, but this one is in full color with many graphs and pictures.

I want to thank the many forum members who reported their drums and particularly mlayton, zenstat and K.O. who shared large volumes of information and/or pictures from their collections.

More information is available at www.GretschDrumDatingGuide.com (click on the Ludwig Serial Number Projects tab). I hope that you find my latest effort worthwhile. If you have any questions or comments, please let me know.

Rick

Collecting information about the following for ongoing research projects:
Gretsch drums with serial numbers,
Ludwig Keystone and B/O badge drums with serial numbers and date stamps,
Ludwig Standards from 1968-73, and
Ludwigs with paper labels from 1971-72
www.GretschDrumDatingGuide.com
Posted on 11 years ago
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Cool stuff. Working on figuring out what the deal is with this Ludwig snare I just got my hands on. I'll check out the site.

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rick

thanks again for putting all of this great info together for all of us Ludwig collectors and enthusiasts! I enjoyed being able to share what data I had to see this come together. you put a ton of work into this!!

mike

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From wpmoorej

Cool stuff. Working on figuring out what the deal is with this Ludwig snare I just got my hands on. I'll check out the site.

beautiful snare! that should be a early spring 65 ludalloy supraphonic. could have a red felt baseball bat muffler or a white felt of the same. brass or steel hoops would be correct or a combination of both during this period. hope this helps some..

mike

Posted on 11 years ago
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Most Excellent Work. Again. We are all in your debt.

Rogers Drums Big R era 1975-1984 Dating Guide.
http://www.vintagedrumforum.com/showthread.php?t=24048
Posted on 11 years ago
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Hi Rick!

Hope you folks had a Merry!

Thanks for this!

Craig

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Posted on 11 years ago
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Wow! That is an impressive piece of work! I've bookmarked the website and I'll order the publication. Excellent job. Thanks to Mike Layton and all the contributors for their hard work and input as well.

Very well done gentlemen! Thank you.

John

Too many great drums to list here!

http://www.walbergandauge.com/VintageVenue.htm
Posted on 11 years ago
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No way to put a value on work like this. Hats off, Rick......marko

Posted on 11 years ago
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Rick - you need to post an ad in the For Sale section! Just make sure you provide the link for direct purchase.

John

Too many great drums to list here!

http://www.walbergandauge.com/VintageVenue.htm
Posted on 11 years ago
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From Purdie Shuffle

Rick - you need to post an ad in the For Sale section! Just make sure you provide the link for direct purchase. John

I don't even have any copies myself to sell yet! At this point, I was wanting to thank some people who contributed and announce the publication. I think many have known it was coming for a few months, since it has been alluded to in several posts.

Thanks to all for the encouraging comments.

Rick

Collecting information about the following for ongoing research projects:
Gretsch drums with serial numbers,
Ludwig Keystone and B/O badge drums with serial numbers and date stamps,
Ludwig Standards from 1968-73, and
Ludwigs with paper labels from 1971-72
www.GretschDrumDatingGuide.com
Posted on 11 years ago
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