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Big R Londoner kit - worth a re-wrap?

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Hi All,

I picked up a Londoner pretty cheap - but the wrap is shot. I just want to flip it, but I know I'll get little in its current shape. If I clean it up and re-wrap, will it fetch anything, or should I just try to move it as is?

Here they are currently:

http://s805.photobucket.com/user/drumgeek74/slideshow/big%20R

Posted on 11 years ago
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You could spend $300 rewrapping it and never recoup the investment. Plus, you'll have to rewrap in a finish which you think will have universal appeal (wrong choice may limit the number of interested buyers). Leaving it as-is will let the buyer decide which finish they'd prefer. Just some things to think about.

-No Guru... still learning more every day-
Posted on 11 years ago
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maybe advertise it 'as is' but offer to rewrap it in a finish of the buyers choice for extra $$. Or rewrap one drum to show how it could look (or show a photo of a nice set) and offer to do the job at a nice price. It's a bit "do you want fries with that" but not quite.

This way you don't have to spend any money up front but you are advertising the potential and if the buyer gets you to do the work you could make more.

Andrew

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Posted on 11 years ago
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Or, remove the wrap and stain/clearcoat the outer ply...This method would be a cheaper alternative then rewrapping...I personally like the look of natural wood kits...

Cheers

1976 Ludwig Mach 4 Thermogloss 26-18-14-14sn
1978 Ludwig Stainless 22-22-18-16-14-13-12 c/w 6-8-10-12-13-14-15-16-18-20-22-24 concert toms
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1971 Ludwig Classic Bowling Ball OBP 22-16-14-13
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Posted on 11 years ago
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Thanks for the feedback! I thought about removing the old wrap and staining them, but I've never done that. I've found what seems to be an easy, affordable [under $100] and seemingly quality re-wrap, but they only offer sparkles and WMP. I'd be more confident doing that than trying to stain it.

Plus, I'd guess someone would want a crazy sparkle Big R players kit, no?

Posted on 11 years ago
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How will we know when we can`t see it:-)?

Posted on 11 years ago
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With cheap wrap you are going to buy into a packet of grief and some dude ****ed off at you forever and posting it on the internet. If you are going to do it... do it right. You aren't going to make any bank on it. The kit is worth far more than it is worth. Which, right now is about two bills. You are most likely going to lose the badges, I would like to know the numbers. So a refinished, unbadged Big R XP8......... will not be worth the cost of the wrap most likely. You will do well to break even with a little extra.

Rogers Drums Big R era 1975-1984 Dating Guide.
http://www.vintagedrumforum.com/showthread.php?t=24048
Posted on 11 years ago
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From The Ploughman

With cheap wrap you are going to buy into a packet of grief and some dude ****ed off at you forever and posting it on the internet. If you are going to do it... do it right. You aren't going to make any bank on it. The kit is worth far more than it is worth. Which, right now is about two bills. You are most likely going to lose the badges, I would like to know the numbers. So a refinished, unbadged Big R XP8......... will not be worth the cost of the wrap most likely. You will do well to break even with a little extra.

And with this I'm going to start a new thread, and I hope you will chime in, Jack, as I consider you to be one of the best versed in things 'Rogers' on the site.

fishwaltz
Posted on 11 years ago
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Thanks, Ploughman. Obviously, no collector or vintage guy would touch it, but I though maybe the "wow" factor of a cool sparkle finish on an old kit might win out w/ somebody. I'm not looking to replicate an original Rogers finish, but just a quality replacement wrap.

I know Big R's aren't super desirable, but it came w/ a package of other candy, so now i'm kinda stuck w/ it. I prob have about 300 into it - if I could wrap it for 100 and sell it locally for 500, I'd be thrilled. Worst case scenario, I could part it out and at least break even.

Does anyone have any experience dealing w/ these wraps? FWIW, he has a lot of good reviews. http://www.ebay.com/usr/sparkledrumwraps

Posted on 11 years ago
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If you don't have anything missing, you try to repair it. It might work and might not. But that wrap can be welded with the right solvent, and buffed out so that the repair is barely a line. Hard to tell the extent of the damage. I own two kits in that color. I did a small repair on a 12 that had a 2x2 triangular shaped piece gone, you cant see it from a few feet away. My 1977 set has the beginnings of stress line cracks in a lot of places, but nothing open. They will get rewrapped in something totally cool some day. And I will probably pay close to 600 to get that done. It was my first drumset. And only drums for 20 years. I will keep them.

But cheap wrap isn't the way to go. It has such a tendency to bubble and stretch and deform.

Rogers Drums Big R era 1975-1984 Dating Guide.
http://www.vintagedrumforum.com/showthread.php?t=24048
Posted on 11 years ago
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