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Problem with snare buzz...not sympathetic buzzing.

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I've been messing around with various snare tunings to achieve a fat, somewhat wet sound, without loosing tone definition and have gotten pretty close to my ideal. The problem that I can't figure out is how to get rid of the buzz that comes from the rez head when I strike the drum. It tends to happen when I crank the rez head, no matter the tuning on the batter side. I have adjusted the rez head down a bit, don't want to loose the punch I get from a fairly up-tuned head, and the buzz is still there. I have this problem on both my '65 Slingerland Deluxe Student model & my '49 WFL Concert snare.

I've convinced myself this is a tuning issue, but would love some input from more experienced drummers. I spend a lot of time tuning, but it's mostly self, or youtube learned and am out of ideas.

Thanks for any suggestions,

Brian

'65/'66 Slingerland Stage Band in Red Sparkle Pearl
'67 Rogers Buddy Rich Headliner in Blue Sparkle Pearl
'49 WFL 6.5x14 Contest Snare
'55 Slingerland 7x14 Hollywood Ace Snare
'70's Premier PD2000 5x14 Snare
50's & 70's Zildjian/Paiste Cymbals
Posted on 11 years ago
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Bzzz. Any thoughts?

'65/'66 Slingerland Stage Band in Red Sparkle Pearl
'67 Rogers Buddy Rich Headliner in Blue Sparkle Pearl
'49 WFL 6.5x14 Contest Snare
'55 Slingerland 7x14 Hollywood Ace Snare
'70's Premier PD2000 5x14 Snare
50's & 70's Zildjian/Paiste Cymbals
Posted on 11 years ago
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Maybe the problem is the wires? I though Puresound made a set of wires to try and hamper this buzzing issue. They are missing wires in the middle or something. There was another thread or two on this subject and I remember the wires being one of the things that were brought up.

Also, call me crazy, but someone said to put foil between the wires and reso head, or something like that??????

No real clear answers here, but that is what I recall the lads saying a little while ago on this subject.

"If it doesn't matter who wins or loses then why the hell do they keep score Peg? - Al Bundy
Posted on 11 years ago
#3
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Have you read the Drum tuning Bible?

http://eric.frap.net/sa/bible/profsound.shtml

Have a look and maybe try a few things?

So many variables.

Glenn.

Not a guru just havin fun with some old dusty drums.
Posted on 11 years ago
#4
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If you put your fingers on the reso head without touching the wires or drum and hit the batter head, does it still buzz ?

It`s a drum,.....Hit It !!

.....76/#XK9207 Phonic Sound Machine D454/D-505 snares !i
Posted on 11 years ago
#5
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Try backing off the 4 Reso side lugs closest to the strainer, sometimes does the trick.. start with 1/4 turn off on each...

Cheers

'77 Slingerland 51N,Super Rock 24,18,14,13.. COW 8,10 Concert toms
'69 Slingerland Hollywood Ace
'75 Rogers Dynasonic 6.5 x 14, 10 lug COB
'77-78 Slingerland 6.5 x 14, 10 lug COB
'78-79 Slingerland 5 1/4 x14 8 lug COB
'79 Biman 5 1/4, Acrolite
'82 Slingerland 5 1/4 x 14. Festival COS
'84 Tama MasterCraft Superstar 6.5 x 14, 10 lug Rosewood
'98 Slingerland (Music YO) 6" 10 Lug Maple.. NOS
Zildjian, Sabian , UFIP & Paiste mix.
Posted on 11 years ago
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From drumhack

Maybe the problem is the wires? I though Puresound made a set of wires to try and hamper this buzzing issue. They are missing wires in the middle or something. There was another thread or two on this subject and I remember the wires being one of the things that were brought up.Also, call me crazy, but someone said to put foil between the wires and reso head, or something like that?????? No real clear answers here, but that is what I recall the lads saying a little while ago on this subject.

That was me that posted about the Equalizers from Puresound:

http://www.puresoundpercussion.com/PSPProductDetails.Page?AxPageID=6211&mode=0&productid=11&ActiveID=4896&productname=Equalizer_Series

They work! These wires eliminate all extraneous snare buzzing. Try a set.

John

Too many great drums to list here!

http://www.walbergandauge.com/VintageVenue.htm
Posted on 11 years ago
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From drumhack

Maybe the problem is the wires? I though Puresound made a set of wires to try and hamper this buzzing issue. They are missing wires in the middle or something. There was another thread or two on this subject and I remember the wires being one of the things that were brought up.Also, call me crazy, but someone said to put foil between the wires and reso head, or something like that?????? No real clear answers here, but that is what I recall the lads saying a little while ago on this subject.

Thanks. I did read that thread, but feel that this is a different issue...could be wrong, though.

Thanks again, drumhack.

'65/'66 Slingerland Stage Band in Red Sparkle Pearl
'67 Rogers Buddy Rich Headliner in Blue Sparkle Pearl
'49 WFL 6.5x14 Contest Snare
'55 Slingerland 7x14 Hollywood Ace Snare
'70's Premier PD2000 5x14 Snare
50's & 70's Zildjian/Paiste Cymbals
Posted on 11 years ago
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Posts: 244 Threads: 25

Thanks, FFR182! I have not, but will look it up today!

Thanks, oddball. It's not the buzzing from hitting another drum. I have a bit of that...and it does stop if I touch the top head, this is a tighter buzz that comes when I strike the head.

Thanks, longjohn. I always tune that way. It was a trick a friend showed me to get a fatter sound out of the drum. The challenge here is the Slingerland snare beds are so wide, I'm getting a wrinkle in the head when I back off the tension. Baybe I just need a new hazy300 reso head. Hmm....

Thanks, John. I am using som old, not original, Slingerland snare wires. I saw your earlier thread about the Puresound Equalizers & may pull the trigger on some. I've always just gone with Ludwig replacement wires and been pretty happy...until now:)

Thanks again fellas! Got plenty of input to chew on for a bit & will repost with results.

Happy Tuesday,

Brian

'65/'66 Slingerland Stage Band in Red Sparkle Pearl
'67 Rogers Buddy Rich Headliner in Blue Sparkle Pearl
'49 WFL 6.5x14 Contest Snare
'55 Slingerland 7x14 Hollywood Ace Snare
'70's Premier PD2000 5x14 Snare
50's & 70's Zildjian/Paiste Cymbals
Posted on 11 years ago
#9
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I have always heard that buzz is caused by one or more wires not being tight enough on the reso head. Make sure all the wires are tight when engaged.

My kit:
Ludwig Vistalite Big Beat set consisting of:
14” X 22” bass, 16” X 16” floor tom, 8” X 12” ride tom, 9” X 13” ride tom, 5” X 14” snare
Ludwig 201 Speed King bass drum pedal
Ludwig 1124 Spur-lok hit-hat with Ludwig Standard Paiste 14” cymbals (760 & 770 gr) with ching-ring
Two Ludwig Standard S-270 cymbals stands
18” Zildjian crash cymbal (1550 gr) and 20” Zildjian ride cymbal (2130 gr) with CAMCO sizzler
Gibraltar motorcycle seat-style drum throne with backrest
Posted on 11 years ago
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