Morning OS;

Original Ludwig Standard pedals had this footplate (attached). If you want close up pix of the realm of Standard hardware, let me know. It was all flat base, BTW...

Craig

Hey Craig!

Thanks so much for your time and the information. Apparently the original owner of the kit I recently purchased either swapped them out for the ones in my pic or ordered them originally with the kit (if that was possible).

The kick and high hat you have look like 90's (or even later) Rocker Stuff, or maybe even early Combo (still Asian) stuff. I don't know,I've never really delved into the world of Ludwig's later Asian hardware.

The original 'Standard' hardware has (let's be polite here)... quirks. It's light weight and likes to travel around the stage for one thing. Other than that, it works okay. Last May (think) a spring broke on my DW 7000 in the middle of a gig. I was using my Jazz sized Standard's, and just happened to have the Standard kick in the gig bag, so...

The forty some year old kick worked, but did attempt to meet and greet the others in the band as it traveled hither and yon in cadence with my bass drum notes. That's when the fond memories of my youth gurgled up from the morass and reminded me that I used to tie the bass drum (via a tension rod) to the throne. The bass drum did buck and grind in it's attempt at freedom, but the heavy twine kept it in check.

And, yes... I always use a gig rug.

Great story!Excited Thanks for sharing.

The originals are cool looking but they function abysmally (at least mine do)so just get them to display with the set.

Thanks for the info and the pics! The snare stand and cymbal stands that came with the kit look identical to those that you forwarded.

Although you could buy them separatley,my standards came with two flush base cymblal stands,snare/hi hat stand and bass pedal,which I promptly replaced with a speedking.

The cymbal stands were ok,but everything else had to go.

Steve B

Yep, that's the way they came. I bought the Avocado kit slightly used... it was about a year and a half old. The original owner bought it when he came back from Viet Nam, but his soon to be wife said they needed furniture, so...

He really had no clue about the drums anyway. I think he said he'd thumped 'em for a month or two then stuffed 'em in his closet. He only had high hat cymbals (15" Ludwig Standard's by Paiste - still got 'em), so the original 'Standard' cymbal stands were still in the box. I traded them in at the local music store (Sound Stage) for Atlas stands the same day I bought the kit. That would have been the summer of 1971...

I did use the 'Standard' kick, snare stand and high hat, but soon replaced the kick with the 'Ghost', which was a big deal at the time.

In essence the Standard bass drum pedal is the 1960's Ludwig Red Universal bass drum pedal with a different floorboard. I've always found them (when properly maintained and set) to be quite a decent basic pedal that packs a big punch! Another important factor to know about the older Ludwig Blue Universal, the Red Universal, and the Standard pedal is that they are all reversible for use as standup cocktail drum pedals! Simply disconnect the metal linkage held by the leather strap from its socket in the axle, re-insert it into the opposite side of the same socket on the axle, and play the bottom of your floor toms! These model bass drum pedals also fold flat as a pancake in one piece by detaching the floorboard from the holding pin on the pedal base casting. Simplicity is Beauty !