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[Kent] Curious about this old Kenmore, NY snare (w/pics)

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So... I got this old Kent snare at an antique show years ago (didn't pay much). Cool looking thing. It's 5"x14", wooden six lug and in pretty nice shape - white foil tag with gold lettering says "KENT, Kenmore 17, N.Y."

I'm certainly no expert on Kents, but it appears to be all original (except for the Remo Ambassador top-head). It's got narrow-looking 12 wire snares on the bottom (never seen anything like them), and the snare side head looks like it's calf. Rods & throw-off are all operational. Very minimal oxidation.

But is this worth keeping? Fixing up? I run a studio and have a bunch of snares... this one's just been sitting on a shelf. I like the way it looks and don't really want to sell it.

If you were looking for another "color" in your snare arsenal (for recording), I'm curious what you might do to bring this snare back to operation (what type of skins; should I change the wires; etc).

Thanks much! I dig old snares and hate to part with this one...

Aj

P.S. Here are the pics...

Kent Snare, with badge showing:

[IMG]http://i970.photobucket.com/albums/ae187/Groupposter/IMG_20130523_1113231.jpg[/IMG]

Throw-off side:

[IMG]http://i970.photobucket.com/albums/ae187/Groupposter/IMG_20130523_1113551.jpg[/IMG]

Snare side, with 12 wire snares & calf head:

[IMG]http://i970.photobucket.com/albums/ae187/Groupposter/IMG_20130523_1114181.jpg[/IMG]

Butt side:

[IMG]http://i970.photobucket.com/albums/ae187/Groupposter/IMG_20130523_1114351.jpg[/IMG]

Inside the drum:

[IMG]http://i970.photobucket.com/albums/ae187/Groupposter/IMG_20130523_1131491.jpg[/IMG]

Posted on 12 years ago
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Cool snare. It's in great and complete condition too. The throw-off handles on Kent snares are known to break-off.

Since you have a studio with multiple snares available for recording, you should just give this Kent a good cleaning and put it into rotation. It's single tension, so you should get a nice low "muddy" snare sound from this drum. Not sure how thin the resonant calf skin is, but you could try a really thin Remo Diplomat head to allow those snares a little more movement and resonance. The standard Diplomat is 7.5-mil, but they also make a 2-mil Diplomat.

Mic up the drum and do some test recordings, so you can provide samples to the musicians that use your studio. I would love to hear some samples of this snare.

-Tim

Posted on 12 years ago
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Thanks for the reply Tim... it is certainly a drum with mojo, at least appearance wise. It gets lots of comments around here, but I've never felt it was set-up properly for use on a session. Heck I don't even know how to tune single tension rods yet :).

But a cool muddy tone sounds like a nice alternative snare character - I'm imagining a snare sound Daniel Lanois might love. The calf head seems kind of thick to me. So maybe the 2mil Diplomat on the snare side and a standard fresh Ambassador on the other? And leave those wires...

Also - curious if anyone knows - how old is this thing, approximately? Made in NY by former Gretsch drum guys, correct?

Aj

Posted on 12 years ago
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I have a 15" single ply single tension and LOVE to record with it, so warm and rich sounding.

Clean it up, keep the calf reso head and either go calf on the batter or a Skyntone.

Posted on 12 years ago
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I would say your drum is from the 50's.

Here is a Kent catalog with your snare:

http://www.vintagedrumguide.com/images/my_collection/literature/kent/kent4_th.jpg

You might want to check the bearing edges too. Kent drums, especially the later years, are known for sometimes uneven/non-existent bearing edges.

Those snare wires look fine from the picture. Experiment with different heads too. Maybe move the calf skin head to the batter side and put a Diplomat on the bottom.

-Tim

Posted on 12 years ago
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Hey Tim, that sure looks like my snare! Model #191P, apparently. Bearing edges feel smooth too. Nice idea about putting the calf side on the beater!

So how do you tune these things?!

Posted on 12 years ago
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From A.j.

Hey Tim, that sure looks like my snare! Model #191P, apparently. Bearing edges feel smooth too. Nice idea about putting the calf side on the beater! So how do you tune these things?!

Bearing edges should also be "rounded" and not flat.

To tune, I would follow the normal tuning procedures. Don't crank the heads down on this drum, because it has 6 lugs, single tension, hoop clips and the hoops are double flange. This drum is made for low to low-medium tuning.

-Tim

Posted on 12 years ago
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Just want to say that that's a terrific-looking snare. Cool lugs n' rods with the wood shell. Makes it look like a cooler, older design. Sweet.

Enjoy!

B

Vintage Drum Fan (Not a Guru)
Posted on 12 years ago
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Ya, it is a cool drum. Do like Tim said, clean it up and rotate it.


Thank you!
Jeff C

"Enjoy every sandwich" Warren Zevon
Posted on 12 years ago
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Kent strainers were their "achilles' heel" and designed to break. The good new is that 1960's-70's Rogers strainers will fit the existing holes without any alteration.

Posted on 12 years ago
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