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Jazz drums...vintage Gretsch or Ludwig Last viewed: 2 minutes ago

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What do you guys think of the basic differences between vintage Ludwig or vintage Gretsch when it comes to jazz? For Ludwig, I'm talking 3 ply as a reference. For sizes, let's say an 18 or 20 bass drum with 12 and 14 toms. Any preference towards one or the other? Again, only talking jazz here, but can open this up to include a broader spectrum of jazz like jazz funk, etc.

Posted on 13 years ago
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I'd say Gretsch if you're after the dry, metallic, throaty bop sound of Art Blakey, Elvin Jones, Tony Williams, etc. '60s RB Gretsch generally sounds great tuned in the medium to high range.

Ludwig if you're more into the resonant, punchy sound of Joe Morello, Buddy Rich, Roy Haynes, etc. '60s Ludwigs generally sound best tuned in the low to medium range.

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Posted on 13 years ago
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From mlvibes

I'd say Gretsch if you're after the dry, metallic, throaty bop sound of Art Blakey, Elvin Jones, Tony Williams, etc. '60s RB Gretsch generally sounds great tuned in the medium to high range. Ludwig if you're more into the resonant, punchy sound of Joe Morello, Buddy Rich, Roy Haynes, etc. '60s Ludwigs generally sound best tuned in the low to medium range.

Nice input here. Thank you!

Posted on 13 years ago
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When you're talking 20/12/14 for jazz or funk, I have to go with Camco!

1957 George Way BDP 26" concert bass drum
1959 George Way BDP 22/12/16 w/ 5.5x14
1959 George Way Green Sparkle 22/12/16 w/5.5x14
1961 George Way Blue Sparkle 20/12/15
1961 George Way Jelly Bean 20/12/14 w/4.5x14
1960’s Camco Oaklawn Champagne 20/12/14/16w/5x14
1971-73 Camco Chanute Walnut 24/14/18 w/5x14 COB
Posted on 13 years ago
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Rogers for jazz ... until I replace my Slingy jazzer ... and locate my Premier jazzer ... ok, I'll shut up.

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Posted on 13 years ago
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Still thinking about this. I'll either grab an older Luddy or Gretsch with a 20 at some point...

Posted on 13 years ago
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From AtlantaDrumGuy

Still thinking about this. I'll either grab an older Luddy or Gretsch with a 20 at some point...

Make sure you consider the Standards. The jazz kits have amazing tone.

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Posted on 13 years ago
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From AtlantaDrumGuy

Still thinking about this. I'll either grab an older Luddy or Gretsch with a 20 at some point...

Dude, just buy a bunch of drums and check em all out.

All different brands, ages, shell lay-ups, etc, etc...

Wade through them all, and then keep them.

That's what's gonna happen anyhow.

:D

Kevin
Posted on 13 years ago
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From kevins

Dude, just buy a bunch of drums and check em all out.All different brands, ages, shell lay-ups, etc, etc...Wade through them all, and then keep them.That's what's gonna happen anyhow.:D

AMEN!!!

I've purchased and sold gobs and gobs of kits over the years. Heck, I've had about twenty roll through my hands (pun intended) in just the past three years. I finally locked on to the shells that groove me.

I just sold/refunded and took back a kit that I knew would be a nightmare to replace. It's tough to let go that which speaks to you. Once you identify the sounds in your heart and head ... you're home.

Reach out and study them for a few years.

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Posted on 13 years ago
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I know what you mean. Sometime you have to play some different things awhile to learn what sounds best to you...takes some wading through. I'm at 5 kits and want to remain at that number. So, if I get something new, then one needs to go!

Posted on 13 years ago
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