Bermuda....those drums are stunning.You are indeed as lucky as you are talented.

Steve B

One other thing that points to the originality of the lugs is the probable procedure in which they were made. Note the hole where the threaded insert is:

[img]http://www.bermudaschwartz.com/images/ludvictorylug.jpg[/img]

The stain is clean to the edge of the hole, which suggests that the lugs were carved, stained, and then drilled, which would be the correct steps at the factory.

If the lug had been stripped and refinished, the new stain would fill that already existing hole, or at least seep over the edges of it.

Yet every lug is clean at the hole's edge, meaning they came from the factory that way.

Bermuda

PS: I love being a detective!

Believe me, I'm a lot luckier, but thank you!

Bermuda

Wow... that lug picture appears so different than in the first two photos.

I initially thought that the "wood"-ware was mahogany with a clear lacquer, and I believed the wood was supposed to maple which made me think it may have been refinshed. The lug close-up looks like it was stained red.

I've seen the old metal foladable basket stands before but not a wood one... it looks a thousand time better than the metal version. They did offer a legged "large tom-tom".. no telling if that was metal or wood dowels tough from the ad.

[IMG]http://www.vintagedrumforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=32283&stc=1&d=1313706130[/IMG]

You said it!!!!

I would say those are original for sure.

They must have spent most of their life in cases. Did you have to do any cleanup?

How are the hoops constructed? are they one piece steam bent with a scarf joint? Or are they some sort of lamination?

That shot is from a flash photo, and the wood does look quite red as a result. In person, under lights or daylight, they're med-oakish brown.

Bermuda

Although the description says lacquer or black & gold duco, my shells have ".020 pearl" stamped inside, which means they were intended to be wrapped.

Yet another discrepancy in Ludwig's product availability!

But I did find a more descriptive page while searching, and I can't seem to find it anymore. :( Gotta scour my browsing history from over the weekend. Will post it if I find again.

Bermuda

So fine!Yes Sir

That is one of the finest looking drum sets I have ever seen. Those 'tabs' on the outer bass drum hoop are very cool and the floor tom cradle is a work of art in itself.

Thank you for posting.

jim

So is the wood trim maple or mahogany?