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An Adjustable Vent Hole

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As I observe postings about how fast the shallower vintage bass drum shells speak, I keep thinking about the physics of the drum and how the lowly vent hole is not considered as a possible way to get the deeper basses to speak quicker. It seems that if there were no holes in the drum the physics of "equal opposite reaction" would come into play. As you can figure, that with more of a vacuum the batter head would force the resonant head to respond more immediately. So how about an adjustable vent hole?

Note: With no resonant head it obviously doesn't matter.

Also I once did a little calculating of the area inside bass drums because I wanted to try and see what size a contemporary bass had, as compared to a vintage shallow bass. I discovered some are very close in internal area size (space volume).

So, maybe contemporary drum depths could have some not often tried ways of getting a more satisfying sound and attack.

“In fact your pedal extremities are a bit obnoxious”. – Fats Waller
Posted on 13 years ago
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510,

Pearl uses Golden Ratio calculations to determine air vent placement on their higher end lines. I have not played one of their drums that uses this method of determining placement though.

I recall seeing a picture and description of a DW snare a few years ago that had some sort of an adjustable air vent. I can't remember what they called it though.

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From ConvertedLudwigPLayer

510,Pearl uses Golden Ratio calculations to determine air vent placement on their higher end lines. I have not played one of their drums that uses this method of determining placement though. I recall seeing a picture and description of a DW snare a few years ago that had some sort of an adjustable air vent. I can't remember what they called it though.

ConvertedLudwigPLayer - Cool! Thanks for your input! What interests me with this thread though is, to vent or not to vent and having an adjustable vent hole (open or closed and anything in between).

“In fact your pedal extremities are a bit obnoxious”. – Fats Waller
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DW has already done this with snares and kits.

What Would You Do
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From RogerSling

DW has already done this with snares and kits.

RogerSling - Great! Thank you! So, do you know why DW did it? Did it give their bass drums a quicker or slower response if you set up the vent hole adjustment one way or another?

Has anybody here worked with this type of bass drum that could tell us what they observed?

“In fact your pedal extremities are a bit obnoxious”. – Fats Waller
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What Would You Do
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From RogerSling

RogerSling - Thanks, I saw that snare right after I read your previous post. The blurb for that snare does mention that, besides the changing of the EQ, that it did effect the attack.Cool1

I wasn't able to find any mention of a bass drum though. I'm sure they would build a custom one if desired. I'm thinking that a nice big adjustable vent hole could be useful for those that didn't want to take the resonant head off, or cut a hole in the head, and might give all the other EQ and action possabilties too. I'm sorry to report that I don't have the resources(tools, shop, extra BD, and woodworking skills) to persue this the way I would like to.

Thanks again RogerSling!

“In fact your pedal extremities are a bit obnoxious”. – Fats Waller
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Use a cork ??..........:D

Kevin
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From kevins

Use a cork ??..........:D

kevins - Yeah Man! I know that that ain't no joke, kinda! It could be that simple. Do you have a vintage and contemporary bass to compare? Please try it if you could. (I get a picture of you kickin and the cork shoots out like those old pop guns. Ha,ha,ha...)

I'm starting to think that the sound of the taller bass (26, 28 and such) being felt as speaking quicker, could be attributed to the drum head actually being closer to the players ears than the shorter contemporary bass (18,20,22,etc).

Thanks!

“In fact your pedal extremities are a bit obnoxious”. – Fats Waller
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kevins - Yeah Man! I know that that ain't no joke, kinda! It could be that simple. Do you have a vintage and contemporary bass to compare? Please try it if you could. (I get a picture of you kickin and the cork shoots out like those old pop guns. Ha,ha,ha...)I'm starting to think that the sound of the taller bass (26, 28 and such) being felt as speaking quicker, could be attributed to the drum head actually being closer to the players ears than the shorter contemporary bass (18,20,22,etc). Thanks!

Use a cork and chewing gum ?

I'm just having a bit of fun, of course.... but could anything

other than an audio spectrometer actually "hear" the difference ( that was serious, I wouldn't know?).

Thanks

Kevin
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