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Old 04-14-2010, 11:43 AM
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18 months! I would have been so ****ed off
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Old 04-17-2010, 10:54 PM
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I do not see the logic of booting someone off of a drum history forum for being an alleged bad seller of vintage drums and parts. If this was EBAY then sure, but this is a drum history forum. If you are of sound mind and body and still willing to send your money to someone you have never met in person, hoping he is a "good guy" based off of his random posts, then the burden is all yours to carry. Caveat emptor!!


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Old 04-18-2010, 05:21 PM
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drumhack, while what you say is naturally true, remeber that the forum does actually have a section dedicated to trading activities, and therefore I think it's in the best interest for all parties to have this kind of feedback and the moderators taking some kind of action at least in such 'exceptional' cases.
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Old 04-18-2010, 05:30 PM
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Sad but true...buyer beware!..There is always someone out there that needs to be avoided,even on forums.
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Old 04-20-2010, 01:47 AM
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My VADRUMS (Thomas Mintz) story...........can I say that??

I bought some vintage Gretsch parts from Tom just before Christmas - over $300 worth. We traded emails and had some good conversation and I received my drum parts in a timely manner - very competative pricing too.

Then.........in Feb. I bought one small part - $15. I've received nothing so far..........and all my emails go unanwered. Kind of strange....I had no trouble with the large order.........but he skips with the $15. Got to be something else going on there. I hope he's alright and not having some kind of crisis in his life. I only wish good for the guy and hope all this clears up in a positive way.

I recently tried to contact his business partner - that's where I sent the money.......nothing back yet.
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Old 04-20-2010, 08:09 AM
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Kona, it seems that we're in pretty much the same situation. My second purchase from him was also made by the end of January. I excluded the possibility of him having some big personal problems when I checked his profile here on VDF and saw he was having regular activity. I also included Croce, his 'partner' in the c.c. to some of my last and still unanswered emails. I even sent Tom a payment request through Paypal in order to get my money back after all of this, but I gues it's not neccessary to state the outcome.
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Old 04-20-2010, 08:43 AM
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I do agree that we should be understanding and patient. We are not aware of the rough roads others travel at times. But - if that person is visiting the places (forums) and such, and is flat out ignoring the pleas to communicate ... well then, that's a poop of a different color. That's bad, bad stuff. I wouldn't do any business or even attempt a gentlemanly conversation with that individual. No excuses for that garbage. Just bad people.
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Old 04-20-2010, 09:57 AM
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I agree with you and fllx here.
It's just a little puzzling to me that's all. Unless he's not who he says he is and is just scamming everyone?? I mean - wow - there's a lot more money to be made with a whole lot less effort on his part. Just don't get it. And I'm not naive - I've been on the planet for 60+ years. He seemed like a nice enough fellow in his emails. It may be something like he's spreading himself too thin with other work (Acting/Drumming) and has gotten over his head with all this - it does take time and you have to manage it efficiently. Some are just better at it than others.
Don't get me wrong here - I'm not in any way defending Tom's actions regarding all this. I just hope it can come to a good ending.

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I do agree that we should be understanding and patient. We are not aware of the rough roads others travel at times. But - if that person is visiting the places (forums) and such, and is flat out ignoring the pleas to communicate ... well then, that's a poop of a different color. That's bad, bad stuff. I wouldn't do any business or even attempt a gentlemanly conversation with that individual. No excuses for that garbage. Just bad people.
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Old 04-20-2010, 06:10 PM
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Good news, Tom has finally replied. I really hope to post a happy ending to this story soon.
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Old 04-20-2010, 07:47 PM
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There really can't be a happy ending. The damage is done. It can only be 'not as bad as it could have been'.
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