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Old 08-01-2012, 01:57 PM
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Default Gretsch One-Nighter Kit

All, I've amassed too many projects and need to get rid of some stuff. Before I do, I need to get your opinion on a kit that I have. Here's the scoop.

My co-worker texted me one night about his grandpa in-laws Gretsch kit and asked if I'd be interested in it. After I peed my pants, I texted back YES! I had no idea what it was other than it was a 60's G kit in blue sparkle. I went over to see it and basically picked it up along with the other stuff he had. I picked up the One Nighter Kit, 4157 snare, Slingerland floor tom and some nice jazz cymbals. Apparently he was the original owner of all the stuff and gigged with it 30 or more years. I had a great conversation with him about the jazz scene in St Louis during the 60's, 70's and 80's. How cool is that?

Now back to the kit. He bought the drums from Northland Music in St. Louis. Phil Hulsey sold him the kit. Phil later became a sales rep for the West Coast division of Slingerland if I'm not mistaken. I'm not sure who else he had ties with. Anyway......

The two drums are 9x13 and 14X22 in crushed blue glass. This is early 60's as is there were no paper labels inside the drums.

14X22 Bass drum: The wrap was pretty rough and practically came off when I stipped the bass drum of its hardware. The wrap was full of splits and the seems were held on with duct tape. The metal was in really nice condition overall. Since the wrap was in really rough shape, I decided to remove it. It was making the drum look worse than it actually was. I removed the wrap but not the glue. Overall, I'd say the drum in very good player condition. The hoops are in good shape as is the lugs, Pratt muffler and tom mount. The round badge was pretty cruddy looking with lots glop on it so I cleaned it and now it looks like new and is shiny. I'm sure some brass darkening solution could give it a little age. Heads fit a little snug as expected.

9X13 Tom: I cleaned and waxed the drum and hardware. The metal is in pretty nice shape with all of its original parts minus a couple of washers and screws that hold on the lugs. I think it is missing just 2 of the washers and screws. The diamond plate is functional but probably should be replaced. The wrap on the tom is a little better than the bass drum but it would be a good candidate for rewrap / refinish. From a distance, it looks ok. The badge is original conditon. It needs a cleaning. I linked a pic of the tom. The wrap looks a little better in the pic than it really is but gives a good representation of the condition of the metal. AND the most important thing, heads glide on the shell even with the glass glitter wrap!

I sold off the snare since he bought it later and the wrap was in excellent condition. The wrap was in such good condition that it didn't match the other 2 drums. A member here purchased that drum awhile back. Again, please don't hate, it wasn't original with the kit!!!

So, if I were to sell these 2 drums, what could I ask for it? I believe the wrap would come off the tom real easy. The drums sound great and the shells and metal work are in good, usable player condition.

Here's a link to some photos. I'll need to take more pics.

http://s120.photobucket.com/albums/o...One%20Nighter/

Sorry about the long windedness, I'd rather describe every detail to get an accurate appraisal. Thanks everyone,

Ray

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Old 08-01-2012, 11:32 PM
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Uh, I was thinking about somewhere around $300 or so. Fair?
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Old 08-02-2012, 01:44 AM
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If they were 'parted' out there is just over $700 roughly in parts including the shells. But that's a lot of autcions and fees unless you had people lined up to buy the parts right off.....I know I'd buy the RB's and T-Rods.

That's at middle of the road for parts from my experience these days. I bought a nice midnight blue pearl 9x13 1953 Gretsch tom on eBay a while back for $138....it was a rewrap.....sure didn't look like it though...and one just like it was up for autction recently for over a lot more than that.

That's a pretty nice looking finish....cool....

Ya - I'd say for those sizes in 6ply RB the way they sit - $300+
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Old 08-02-2012, 02:12 AM
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I second Gary's assessment, seems pretty spot on to me.
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Old 08-02-2012, 04:46 AM
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$300 is fair. Hey Poppie, add these two to the Elvin Jones floor tom and you'll have one hell of a kit!

Gravy - these are worth keeping and rewrapping. If you hadn't sold the snare drum, you'd be well on your way to having a killer set of classic vintage drums. Check my Gretsch thread, it might give you second thoughts about selling those great old tubs. Good luck either way, whatever you choose to do.

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Old 08-02-2012, 07:59 AM
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Thanks for the replies everyone. I just don't think I could part it out like that even though it would bring the most dough. I'm tempted to put it on craigslist but I don't like the idea of folks coming over to the house.

John, I thought about keeping it and doing it in Burgundy glass. After I bought it and fell in love with the sound, I bought these:

http://www.classicvintagedrums.com/i...roducts_id=853

The One Nighter was what started my passion for round badge drums.

Last edited by Gravy; 08-03-2012 at 01:02 PM. Reason: Changed from "Headliner" to "One Nighter"
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Old 08-02-2012, 11:32 AM
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Gravy, those tangerines look delicious!!! Sure wish I had the funds to get these two drums from you. Good luck, sir!

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1945 Slingerland RK sparkling gold pearl 26/13/14/16/early 50s 5.5x14 Krupa RK
1967 Slingerland green glass glitter 20/12/14/Hollywood Ace
60s Slingerland 24/13/16/7x14 project
24/13/16/7x14 project RKs
60s 5 & 6.5 Sound Kings
1942 7x14 WMP Krupa RK
1930s Slingerland Universal
1967 Ludwig Hollywood sparkling blue pearl 22/12/13/16
1967 Ludwig Supraphonic 400 & 402
1965 Ludwig Jazz Fest sparkling blue pearl
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Old 08-02-2012, 12:32 PM
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Thanks!

Yep the Tangerines are quite nice. I have had them for a few months now. I haven't detailed them all just yet. I got the snare waxed and bought a new repro stainer. On the floor tom and bass, I have to get the seams glued and replace the non-orginal bass hoop. After that, she's going to be totally gorgeous and ready to be a part of my lifetime collection. I've started getting gretsch hardware (W&A) so I can have a complete kit as it would have come from the factory. It is something I've wanted for 20 years!

This One Nighter kit sounds just as good but just in bigger sizes (For a tenth of the price, haha).


Last edited by Gravy; 08-03-2012 at 01:01 PM. Reason: Changed "Headliner" to "One Nighter". Senior moment.
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Old 08-02-2012, 02:32 PM
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That will be nice! I did the same with my late 50s Slingerland kit...got era correct Slingerland and W&A hardware with 40s-60s As and Ks. I didn't think I'd go to that extreme when I first got the kit, but I caught the vintage gear fever BAD!!! Fortunately, the Ks had already just kinda fallen into my lap last summer...$200 for an intermediate stamp 15" crash on Friday, $200 for a new stamp 15" crash the following Monday - awesome light hihats!

Good luck with your search and getting your kit exactly how you want it! It's super nice!

Sorry to kinda hijack your thread, Ray. I'll shut up now.

Lynn
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1945 Slingerland RK sparkling gold pearl 26/13/14/16/early 50s 5.5x14 Krupa RK
1967 Slingerland green glass glitter 20/12/14/Hollywood Ace
60s Slingerland 24/13/16/7x14 project
24/13/16/7x14 project RKs
60s 5 & 6.5 Sound Kings
1942 7x14 WMP Krupa RK
1930s Slingerland Universal
1967 Ludwig Hollywood sparkling blue pearl 22/12/13/16
1967 Ludwig Supraphonic 400 & 402
1965 Ludwig Jazz Fest sparkling blue pearl
1923 Ludwig 5x14 NOB

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