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Old 06-10-2012, 05:03 PM
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Default Vintage Phil Collins Large KIT

Hi,

New to forum and I was wondering if anyone here could do me a big favor. I am working on a project that requires reconstructing a drum kit (for sampling) that Phil C used when with GENESIS for the LAMB tour.

This was a very BIG KIT that included all kinds of percussion as part of the main kit as well as icing on the cake. He had 4 Timbales that he used as TOMS for example, in addition to his 2 RACK and 2 FLOOR toms.

I have photos but not the expertise to identify each drum kit piece by MFG and size/model.

Any help would be really appreciated. If you PM me, I can send you the photos to help in this quest.

Thanks in advance,
Jim
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Old 06-10-2012, 07:32 PM
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Default Re: Vintage Phil Collins Large KIT

Phil Collins was using a Pearl set up model MXC on a rack and add PTE 3131 and PTE 1336 and Mark Quiniones timbales u can see that set up here on this video. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=sA3rJXV4R4E
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Old 06-10-2012, 08:28 PM
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Default Re: Vintage Phil Collins Large KIT

The pics I have show Phil playing a Premier kit with those timbs.
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Old 06-10-2012, 08:34 PM
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Phil Collins was using a Pearl set ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=sA3rJXV4R4E
Don't you mean Chester? Phil is playing Gretsch in this video.
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Old 06-10-2012, 08:52 PM
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If you PM me, I can send you the photos to help in this quest.
Why not post here for all to see?

I have a couple of photos from the book, "Genesis Chapter and Verse."

In one black & white photo (page 147), he's playing a Premier kit (looks like a wood finish) with a clear Fibes snare. I'm guessing at the sizes of the drums I can see: 5x14 snare; 8x12 and 9x13 mounted toms; and 14x20 bass drum. I'm also guessing that the timbales are by Premier from looking at the lugs.

A color photo on pages 152-153 shows what looks to be the same kit, given a red tinge by the lighting. The bass drum head has a Premier logo. He's using a different snare: it looks black, but it could be a chrome drum in shadow. There's no way to detect the manufacturer. In this photo, he also has four temple blocks mounted over the mounted toms.
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1975? Slingerland New Rock 50N silver sparkle: 12-13-16-22
1973 Slingerland Phantom: 12-13-16-22
1971 Slingerland New Rock 50N walnut: 12-13-16-22 + 5.5x14 matching TDR snare
1972? Rogers Powertone Londoner V butcher block: 12-13-16-22 + 1979 Dynasonic
1986 Yamaha Recording Custom hot red: 10-12-14-22 + 6.5x14 matching snare [for sale]
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Old 06-10-2012, 11:30 PM
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Default Re: Vintage Phil Collins Large KIT

I would love to post photo(s) here in the thread. But, I am technically challenged. If someone could walk me through the process, I would be very grateful. I have this issue in all the forums I frequent.

But, the info you fine folks are offering is very helpful. I knew that someone would know how to ID these kit pieces. If you ever need some ID'ing of vintage amps and guitars I would be your man. :-)

Thanks,
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Old 06-11-2012, 09:16 AM
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I'm testing my ability to upload what Jim sent me. Files seem kind of small.

I'll do the rest this evening.
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1975? Slingerland New Rock 50N silver sparkle: 12-13-16-22
1973 Slingerland Phantom: 12-13-16-22
1971 Slingerland New Rock 50N walnut: 12-13-16-22 + 5.5x14 matching TDR snare
1972? Rogers Powertone Londoner V butcher block: 12-13-16-22 + 1979 Dynasonic
1986 Yamaha Recording Custom hot red: 10-12-14-22 + 6.5x14 matching snare [for sale]
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Old 06-11-2012, 01:56 PM
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I'm testing my ability to upload what Jim sent me. Files seem kind of small.

I'll do the rest this evening.
[ATTACH]http://www.vintagedrumforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=44427&stc=1&d=13394240 15[/ATTACH]

In that photo that's the Pearl set I mentioned MXC I got same set up in 2000 from Pearl.
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Old 06-11-2012, 03:49 PM
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Default Re: Vintage Phil Collins Large KIT

I set up a web page with the pictures in full resolution if you want to check these out....

I also made a fill in the blank template to easily communicate identified kit pieces.

Check it out and please help.

Thanks,
Jim

PS - WEB PAGE addy is :

http://www.lldom.com/LLDOM/ALAN.html
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Old 06-11-2012, 04:46 PM
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I set up a web page with the pictures in full resolution if you want to check these out....

I also made a fill in the blank template to easily communicate identified kit pieces.

Check it out and please help.

Thanks,
Jim

PS - WEB PAGE addy is :

http://www.lldom.com/LLDOM/ALAN.html
The timbales on those photos is a set of 1967-68 Slingerland set , and 1 Premier set the Pan timbales also look like Premier Models, not Pearl set thought to be originally. Other Set looks like a Gretsch drums and Rogers parts mix? Different photos not all same but timbales definitely are a set of Slingerland.

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