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From the 50,s 5x14 in real nice shape except for clam shell throw,tight fit for new heads,engraved top stick chopper...I wouldn,t mind selling this to one of you Slingerland guys,seeing as i make solid steam bent shells,that i like better,but if any of you have any gear you want to trade,or make me an offer,im all ears and in no rush.I wont bother with ebay either,i hate that operation.....I,d look at metal Sling snare drums if you think it would be of similar value...lets talk....I also have a 14" calf skin head for it as well.