Mike Mangini another one of my favorite drummers, I have a lot of them!!! This is off the TV show TIMEWARP, this is way cool, at 4:56 watch what happens to your cymbals after being struck, Very cool! [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8Gxut0odyc[/ame] I had a chance to meet Mike at a Pasic's event in my home town a few years back, the pivoting buzz roll mike is doing at the very beginning of the vid, he personally demonstrated twice for me, He has also taught this little trick to IAN PAICE of Deep Purple fame!