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Old 05-14-2019, 06:02 PM
Drumwhacker Drumwhacker is offline
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Default Differance between "rim shot" and "stick saver" hoops.

Hello, I have a 1966 Slingerland deluxe student model 6 lug snare I recently bought. I believe it's 3 ply maple.

My magnet does not stick on the hoops so I'm thinking COB.

Could you get one of these snares with COB hoops in '66? It makes no mention in the catalog.

Also not sure if "rim shot" (which describes the hoops for this snare in the catalog) is the same as "stick saver" hoops.


Thanks for any info!
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Old 05-14-2019, 06:35 PM
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Default Re: Differance between "rim shot" and "stick saver" hoops.

Sick saver and rim shot are the same to me. It's stick chopper that that makes sticks shorter lived. You can do a lot of lighter rim shots on a stick chopper all day, it's when you put elbow, shoulder and hip into them you can't count your sticks out soon.

You have stick savers.
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Old 05-14-2019, 06:46 PM
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Default Re: Differance between "rim shot" and "stick saver" hoops.

As OddBall points out, Stick Saver and Rim Shot hoops are the same thing. Slingerland officially referred to them as "rim shot counter hoops", but never any mention of "stick saver". The "stick saver" moniker comes into play with the fact that, while being a triple-flanged hoop, the final flange is turned inward towards the head, rather than outward as used by the rest of the industry. This inward flange really did "save" sticks!

Stick Chopper hoops were a double-flanged hoop. And, yes, they sure could chop up sticks!

I believe that the COB Rimshot counter hoops were used to about 1969, when they were replaced by COS hoops. These first COS hoops were obviously made on the same equipment as the COB hoops, as they have the same height and profile as COB hoops. Over the years, the COS hoops began to take on different profiles!

So, there you go. More "hoop" info than you ever wanted to know!

-Mark
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Old 05-14-2019, 07:06 PM
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Default Re: Differance between "rim shot" and "stick saver" hoops.

+1 with Mark & Oddball. COB thru '69, COS starting in '70 (per Dr. CJ Wenk).
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Old 05-14-2019, 08:04 PM
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Default Re: Differance between "rim shot" and "stick saver" hoops.

Wonderful!

Thanks for the info! Hoopty doo
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Old 05-15-2019, 12:44 AM
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Default Re: Differance between "rim shot" and "stick saver" hoops.

I have a nice collection of the Slingerland "Deluxe Student" snare drums. See attached picture. I've got Red, Blue, Silver and Gold sparkle and a WMP. All have COB hoops, except for the blue sparkle drum. The Green Satin Flame 6-lugger is a Slinger-Leedy "Frank Capp" model, but pretty much a "Deluxe Student" with Leedy lugs. It also has COB hoops!

-Mark
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Old 05-15-2019, 12:53 AM
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Here's a picture of a custom-built 4x14 Buddy Rich snare drum I sold not long ago. The hoops were beautiful COB Stick Choppers!

-Mark
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Old 05-16-2019, 12:36 PM
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Default Re: Differance between "rim shot" and "stick saver" hoops.

Nice collection!
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Old 05-16-2019, 12:48 PM
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Default Re: Differance between "rim shot" and "stick saver" hoops.

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Originally Posted by idrum4fun View Post
I have a nice collection of the Slingerland "Deluxe Student" snare drums. See attached picture. I've got Red, Blue, Silver and Gold sparkle and a WMP. All have COB hoops, except for the blue sparkle drum. The Green Satin Flame 6-lugger is a Slinger-Leedy "Frank Capp" model, but pretty much a "Deluxe Student" with Leedy lugs. It also has COB hoops!

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Mark - Very nice drum collection and display setup ! I like it !!
Wish I had the room to display some of my kits vs. "hiding" them away in cases here and there + the garage overhead so the wife doesn't realize the extent of my collection .... LOL
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Old 05-16-2019, 04:10 PM
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Default Re: Differance between "rim shot" and "stick saver" hoops.

I have a sparkle green one collecting dust for the last 20 years in my shop!
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