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Old 10-09-2019, 11:05 PM
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Is your rant over? Got it all outcha' system? Feel better now? Your reply borders on nonsensical. It's barely readable.

You completely misunderstood me. You can get the same trashy, dark style cymbals today that you got from old K's years ago. And it has nothing to do with prejudice. Prejudice of what and whom? The Turks? Please, give me a fu***** break.

I don't understand why some drummers revere these old K's and pay ridiculous sums of money for them. That's the crux of my argument. I have played old K's. I have never played one that made me sit up and take notice. We had an old K ride in my high school drum section. It was OK at best.

So, go fight with someone else, and if you're that worked up about this subject and don't like what I say, just put me on your Ignore List. That's where you're headed right now; on mine.
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Old 10-11-2019, 08:39 AM
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Again for the ignorant of pie making
the metallurgy is a science
It takes decades for the molecules of a new pie to relax and open up to its full potential ,
Thatís why the old Aís and Kís are worth the wait
On the other side if itís not broke donít fix it
Gary
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Old 10-12-2019, 11:16 AM
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"why at all bother with 1960s MIJ drums when you can get new 2020 MyIdentity, Roadshow and GigMaker sets"

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Old 10-13-2019, 03:31 AM
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Again for the ignorant of pie making
the metallurgy is a science
It takes decades for the molecules of a new pie to relax and open up to its full potential ,
Thatís why the old Aís and Kís are worth the wait
On the other side if itís not broke donít fix it
Gary
: It takes 6 months or maybe a year max to properly age a cymbal. After that there's no sound change.

And the bronze does not "relax" during this process; the crystal structure in fact hardens and the result is that the cymbal stiffens.

This info is not only for you but also for anyone else who comes under the category of: "the ignorant of pie making".
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Old 10-13-2019, 08:03 AM
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I couldn't bring myself to re-lathe an old K, even if it sounded terrible. In my opinion, old K's are of historical significance and there are only a finite number of them.
I hear you. However, I view them a lot like I view classic cars.

For example, if I got my hands on a 1965 K-code 2+2 fastback Mustang with a four speed, GT package, pony interior, and styled steel wheels, I wouldn't change a thing. Not many of those to be had.

However, if I had a 1966 Mustang coupe that started life with a straight six, an automatic, standard interior, and hubcaps, I'd change damn near everything. Ford made tons of those.

I wouldn't mess around with Old Stamp K's, or even New Stamps that are within a weight range that dudes want. There aren't that many out there.

But, medium or medium-heavy heavy New Stamps? The factory made bunches of those, and they aren't what most dudes are really after, so I'd be willing to slap those babies on one of my lathes and go to town.

Matt
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Old 10-13-2019, 09:25 AM
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Hello
I am would like to know if anyone has had any luck re-lathing an old K Zildjian Istanbul. There seems to be many out there that are overweight for a fair price and one could purchase and re-lathe them if there has been any success at it. Please let me know and thanks
T
Overweight ? Old K's strike another old K, if you put one on a drum kit that was not created yet when it was made, well it wont quite fit in because you hit it with wood and not Bronze. So the poor thing get's put on a lathe by fools for show reasons totally unaware that it's not meant to be.

It's thick because if they were thin clapper's, you would have a China in only a few concerts.
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Old 10-13-2019, 06:09 PM
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the metallurgy is a science
Gary
What a profound statement....Sort of like saying that science is a science.
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Old 10-14-2019, 05:43 AM
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It’s so nice to hear from the experts here
thanx for enlightenment
Great to know we have metallurgist amongst us
Me I’m just a drummer if it sounds good play it
Gary
And holic your profound all by yourself
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