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Old 02-11-2020, 05:17 PM
JimmySticks JimmySticks is offline
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Things were different back when vintage drums were new. Having something that was manufactured from that time connects me to it.

In many ways, modern drums are "better"...because they are all as straight as a computer can make them...no flaws...much higher quality standards...etc.,etc....I have nothing against them...other than they just aren't the same as a vintage kit. I dunno...maybe sometimes it's the quirkiness and flaws that give certain vintage drums a kind of soul.

Certainly one thing about vintage drum SETS...Back in those days, not every kid had a set of drums. In fact, having a set of drums for a kid back then was unusual. So there was a kind of longing and anticipating the day when you had mowed a sufficient amount of lawns and shoveled a sufficient amount of sidewalks during bone-chilling weather in order to FINALLY be able to get that dream that you'd been swooning over in the catalog for months and months (if not longer!)

New drums (and the new kids) aren't the same. I can't even remember the last time I saw a kid raking leaves, mowing lawns or shoveling sidewalks...but I can walk two blocks in any direction and hear someone playing "BOOM BOOM TSSSH BA-BOOM BOOM TSSSH!" -usually coming from a house with an unmoved lawn. Go figure.
So there's many reasons that I play vintage...not really just because of the sound...but because of the sound and every intangible other thing connected to it.
A lot of good answers, but yours really nails it.

I also remember pouring over catalogues for months and months and shoveling snow etc so I could save some money for what I wanted. Mom and dad weren't so quick to buy us anything. And looking back, it was good that way, because the dream of ownership was often better than actually having it. Working for something really taught us a good life lesson. That is something that this generation will never know, the yearning, the wait, the patience and often the fact that you might never get it no matter what.
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Old 02-11-2020, 06:07 PM
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Because they are the only drums I ever had. Still work and sound just fine. I don't need another kit.
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Old 02-11-2020, 06:33 PM
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My requirements at 17 are not the same as at 63. Or else I'd own that Pro-Beat 24/13/14/16/18/24 out of the 71-catalog. In blonde thermogloss please.


But would be very uncomfortable, to move it..
Nor would I have my very first set. used (in 68) bdp Lud, 20/12/12/16/supra 225$ out of the paper with cases and cymbals.

What I have to day is perfect for all my needs. I don't long for the past It's fruitless. and very weird To me..
I do hold on to some things; (mostly automotive) but not some things I gotta carry in and out and set up and tear down and carry back...
This "reminds me of my youth" I see typed across the net; I can't get with that. My drumming isn't a vacuum museum. It's current. Hell I have a St Patricks Day gig coming up.........in a restaurant.. (50 years of gigging..never quit...jeezus.


And I ain't carry no 24" twin floor Pro-Beat to a lounge gig..

If Living In The Past made me any money or made me live longer I'd do it. But I don't see it.

If I had the room I'd like a 24" set Gretsch 14x24 or Luddy. Until then it's only 18" or that "someday" 24" . No-In -between. I've had "in-betweens" and they're gone.

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Old 02-11-2020, 08:46 PM
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Because modern kits are way overpriced!
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Old 02-12-2020, 12:14 AM
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For me, itís the sound, the field, the looks. The only new set I have ever owned was a DW collectors.Just wasnít me. Ended up trading it for having a house painted. My current Slingerlands said itís good sound that blows people away consistently. They feel good. They look great. And theyíre a piece of history. Whatís not to like?
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Old 02-12-2020, 06:45 AM
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My requirements at 17 are not the same as at 63. Or else I'd own that Pro-Beat 24/13/14/16/18/24 out of the 71-catalog. In blonde thermogloss please.


But would be very uncomfortable, to move it..
Nor would I have my very first set. used (in 68) bdp Lud, 20/12/12/16/supra 225$ out of the paper with cases and cymbals.

What I have to day is perfect for all my needs. I don't long for the past It's fruitless. and very weird To me..
I do hold on to some things; (mostly automotive) but not some things I gotta carry in and out and set up and tear down and carry back...
This "reminds me of my youth" I see typed across the net; I can't get with that. My drumming isn't a vacuum museum. It's current. Hell I have a St Patricks Day gig coming up.........in a restaurant.. (50 years of gigging..never quit...jeezus.


And I ain't carry no 24" twin floor Pro-Beat to a lounge gig..

If Living In The Past made me any money or made me live longer I'd do it. But I don't see it.

If I had the room I'd like a 24" set Gretsch 14x24 or Luddy. Until then it's only 18" or that "someday" 24" . No-In -between. I've had "in-betweens" and they're gone.
That might be the most pragmatic post ever written anywhere!

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Old 02-12-2020, 07:58 AM
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Who needs new drums when you have lots of old ones?? Not me.
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Old 02-12-2020, 08:49 AM
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Back before "bean counters", offshore outsourcing and other manufacturing phenomenon companies just made drums to the best of their abilities. IMHO (yup, just an opinion) there is a sweet spot in the late 50's/early 60's where modern hardware & drum building reached a climax in quality. You can point fingers at Ringo, Pearl, the continuing industrial revolution, gas shortages, the quality of todays steel & a million others, but the world changed along with its drums.
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Old 02-12-2020, 09:01 AM
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Can you elaborate?

I'm still learning about all of this.
Shells got thicker, hardware got heavier, drums got deeper, logos got bigger, and bass drum resonant heads went from white to black. The drums of the '80s were louder and projected better, but they lost a lot of character.

People got too focused on isolating the perfect note, rather than capturing the shell make up and head choice and tuning style along with the note itself.

It's like a computer trying to sing the blues. It can hit the right notes, but it can't make them come alive.
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Old 02-12-2020, 09:12 AM
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Tom mounts from the late 1950s and the 1960s are still copied by most drum manufacturers. The ball and socket Swivomatic mounts designed by Joe Thompson at Rogers were revolutionary. That basic design is still used by many drum makers. Now, the ball part is larger and the adjustments, that once required a drum key to operate, now are locked down by large hand-tightened knobs or levers. Then, in the late 1960s, Rogers drums introduced Memriloc mounts that utilized tubular sections that were secured in place by locking collars. Variations on those two basic designs dominate the drum mounting hardware to this day. Of course, there are some of us who have learned how to be friends with the trusty old rail consolette tom mounts that have been around since the big bands of the 1930s and 1940s featured drummers, who stepped out from the shadows to be featured players in those bands.
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