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Old 07-13-2017, 11:43 AM
Mr.Toast Mr.Toast is offline
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Default Help dating my first vintage cymbals.

I was thinking just dinner and a movie, what do you guys think?

I posted a little about these in another area of the forum, but it's a rainy day here in Ohio, my teenager has complained about my drum practicing being "kinda lame", and I have checked CL five times, so here I am.

These cymbals came with a Ludwig Standard kit dated to 1970, but I think they are older. What do you folks think?

The crash/ride is 18", and the hats are 15".

Thanks in advance for the boredom curing feedback.

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Old 07-13-2017, 01:33 PM
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Default Re: Help dating my first vintage cymbals.

The first stamp pic represents a Block Stamp, also called Hollow Block. These are usually considered mid 50's. The second stamp pic is of a late 50's stamp. Most cymbals from these/this era sound very nice. Don't see a lot of 18's with that stamp. Usually more of 20's and 22's.
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Old 07-13-2017, 03:31 PM
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Default Re: Help dating my first vintage cymbals.

Thanks Mike.
I am relatively new to drumming (35 years a guitar guy only 4 years a drummer) and a complete noob when it comes to vintage cymbals, so I don't trust my ears to pick out subtleties yet, but the difference between these and my modern cymbals (mostly Paiste Signatures) is truly remarkable. These are so creamy in comparison. I need to do some recording with them to see how well their character shows up in a mix, but in an acoustic, low volume setting they are really fantastic.
Thanks for helping me pin down the dates.


Here is another question for you and anyone else reading this...

If I were to look for another vintage cymbal to compliment these hats and the 18", what would you suggest?
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Old 07-13-2017, 05:28 PM
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Glad to help. Yes, the old A's have a nice mellow sound and are very versatile in many applications. Your hats are also nice in that they are 15's. That's a desirable size for many. 14's are much more common.

If those were mine and I was looking to "complete" them, I'd ad a 22" 50's Zildjian to what you have. A 20" would also be fine. But I like the 22's. You can usually find a decent one matching either of your stamps, without breaking the bank.
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Old 07-13-2017, 08:55 PM
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Glad to help. Yes, the old A's have a nice mellow sound and are very versatile in many applications. Your hats are also nice in that they are 15's. That's a desirable size for many. 14's are much more common.

If those were mine and I was looking to "complete" them, I'd ad a 22" 50's Zildjian to what you have. A 20" would also be fine. But I like the 22's. You can usually find a decent one matching either of your stamps, without breaking the bank.
I will actually have a couple of 1950's 20's for sale in the next few weeks. Cutting down the collection.
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