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Old 10-28-2011, 02:47 PM
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I think its just late 50's early 60's stamp but there from the 50's the late 50's that is.
I believe they are all early '60's. I wouldn't worry much about the keyhole in the ride unless there is also a crack there. The keyhole occured because the cymbal was used extensively without a rubber or plastic collar on the cymbal stand. It amazes me how many people have done that.
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Old 10-28-2011, 10:34 PM
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I believe they are all early '60's. I wouldn't worry much about the keyhole in the ride unless there is also a crack there. The keyhole occured because the cymbal was used extensively without a rubber or plastic collar on the cymbal stand. It amazes me how many people have done that.
See all proof leads to early 60's except I found a few sites that said this stamp was used in the late 50's to early 60's.

It also kinda has to be true because there ARE the original cymbals. My entire family knows this for a fact. The drums were purchased in 58 the same year this new stamp supposedly came out.
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Old 10-28-2011, 10:36 PM
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Yes ikr when the drums came here the keywhole wasnt nearly that bad. I have since got a rubber thing to protect it from any further damage.
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Old 10-28-2011, 10:40 PM
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And you guys the only reason I am going against ur judgment is because I know they are the ones that came with the kit for a fact. If there was a chance they were older it would be one thing but there isn't.
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Old 10-29-2011, 08:21 AM
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I tend to agree the stamp screams early 60's but i just recently had in my possesion a cymbal with the same stamp but hammering, lathing and small mounting hole all characteristics of the 50's along with a ton of artifacts through out the cymbal that indicated it was of 50's make. I also own several rides and hihats(very thin) with the same stamp that has lathing from the same later 50's type of manufacturing. Even feels like 50's type cymals when i play them.

So i believe Mr. Lud when he says they were bought in 1958.

I'm sure that Drumaholic will give us his expertise on this matter.

Gary.
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Old 10-29-2011, 12:15 PM
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I also agree with Mr.Lud. You and your family knows these are from 58' with a set. The stamp seems early 60's, but it might not reflect the exact age sometime. When the cymbals were delivered, they could be stamped so the stamp is not all. Someone knows it in detail.
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Old 10-30-2011, 05:00 PM
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drums2xs that is some beautiful clean and polish work!
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Old 10-30-2011, 09:55 PM
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drums2xs that is some beautiful clean and polish work!
Thank's bro . there are only 2 places in canada that doses this , and i'm one of them
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Old 10-30-2011, 10:23 PM
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Thank's bro . there are only 2 places in canada that doses this , and i'm one of them
What are them silver ones? I so want a set of them. There really cool looking! That shine is amazing too.
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Old 10-30-2011, 10:24 PM
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if your going to clean and polish your vintage cymbals i recomend having them done by a pro . if it's not done right you might end up with a cymbal that look's far worst than what you think is bad in the first place . here is some pic's of my work , with vintage zildjian a' and k's in my shop . and your cymbals are form the early 60's
You do nice work, they look brand new. But frankly I prefer the before pictures with their patina. The only things I clean on cymbals are grunge, mold or tape residue. I never touch the patina, I would never purchase vintage cymbals that have been polished by someone unknown to me, especially on line, since I have no way of knowing how the bright finish was achieved. I wouldn't want a cymbal which was cleaned with caustic chemicals or buffed with steel wool as some are. When in doubt, I'll just pass it by.
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