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Old 02-12-2020, 04:48 PM
johnnyringo johnnyringo is offline
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Ok, I came back from the drum room somewhat frustrated. I want to play better, but unfortunately I don't have a lot of time to practice, ya know because of having a life with other responsibilities. I was watching a video of Cindy Blackman, from Lenny Kravitz and now Santana, anyway, she's a big Tony Williams fan and sometimes uses several toms with clear dots, I got inspired to change things up and I knew I had some clear dots, so I replaced all the heads and set up the 12,13,16,22 and placed the cymbals similar to how she sets up. Now, I'm not a moron, I knew I couldn't just set up differently and automatically play like her or Tony, I just wanted to try something new. I want to play better and I can pull off some cool licks, but damn, I get so tired and my hands and feet won't do everything my brain is thinking! I play in a cover band and I can play that stuff all night, but I want to be better at soloing on my own, not to try to be better than the next guy, just for my own satisfaction. But, getting older and not having the time to practice sucks. I work out on my spin bike 4-5 times a week and try to eat right, (Although sometimes I fail at that too) and it definitely helps, but I still get tired and I get frustrated.
I don't care about having a lot of gear or the best gear, I just want to play better.
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Old 02-12-2020, 06:04 PM
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Get a practice pad, a metronome and Stick Control and practice the 1st page an hour a day.
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Old 02-14-2020, 01:26 PM
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Get a practice pad, a metronome and Stick Control and practice the 1st page an hour a day.
I am with you on that, stick control absolutely is a must. But did you ever think to remove all your cymbals for a few days? I have done that and it gives you a whole new perspective behind the kit that makes your brain immediately go: What the???
You are forced to re-invent your approach. We often (at least i do) tend to go back to the same old routine which makes it a little redundant. It worked for me, made me a more melodic player.
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Old 02-14-2020, 02:59 PM
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I am with you on that, stick control absolutely is a must. But did you ever think to remove all your cymbals for a few days? I have done that and it gives you a whole new perspective behind the kit that makes your brain immediately go: What the???
You are forced to re-invent your approach. We often (at least i do) tend to go back to the same old routine which makes it a little redundant. It worked for me, made me a more melodic player.
Kind of like taking the steering wheel off the car and saying, "ok, let's take her for a drive!"

I actually like the concept though. Can't fall into your routine so easy.
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Old 02-12-2020, 06:06 PM
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Drums look Best as a 5 piece imho..look good.
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Old 02-12-2020, 07:33 PM
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Get out of your comfort zone.

I know that's easier said than done. I found that very hard to do when I was a guitar player, but it's the only way. If your only doing rock, than try some jazz. You may not be into jazz, but after I immersed myself in it, I began to really get it. Now I'm consumed with it and I love playing it. When I find a real swing tune, and find the groove, there's nothing like it. Find a jazz instructor, and take a lesson even once a month, or check out YouTube, there is plenty of instructional stuff there that will challenge you.

The time thing is tough, but if you want it, you'll find the time.

You just need to be up to the challenge, and that's the hard part.

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Old 02-12-2020, 07:47 PM
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I love jazz and I set up the kit completely different to get out of my comfort zone.
Here's a video of Cindy Blackman.
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Old 02-13-2020, 04:26 AM
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I love jazz and I set up the kit completely different to get out of my comfort zone.
Here's a video of Cindy Blackman.
https://youtu.be/RyXYFtsqym4
Cindy,s not playing by the rules, there are none for freestyle. That's why tec. drummers often can't do it. Cindy's not keeping time at all. The bass player is outside having a cigarette, the guitar is tuning his axe and the lead is messing with the chicks. No time to keep. Cindy is putting stored riffs together in her head real fast and then putting them on the drums.

You can put riffs together in your head anywhere or time of your day. When you play by rules, you need to be in front of a kit because they are set and you must do it until you do it correctly. That part does not exist in freestyle. It's unlimited and you make the rules, sometimes as you go along.

I carry chop sticks around most of the time and in a pause, I'll start playing my riff on what ever is around me to see how it will sound before playing it on my drums. There is no beat to it. A beat is a rule and we are not playing by the rules, remember ?

As an example,.... Her cymbals see little action, they are periods and comma's and we aint typing we're drumming. At 458 or so you see her loose it for a sec then quickly do something she falls back on because she's used to it. It happens. Eventually she runs low on stored riffs she's put together and starts a grove and a beat simply to put together more riffs. I seen Peart do it playing big band, he simply looks at his BD at one point and keeps a grove for a few, then goes on to what he is inventing as he goes along. The more you have in your head, the less you need to go back to the rules. This is why I carry chop sticks around a lot, you can do it all day anywhere, but people around you may throw things or shoot at you because it wont sound good first couple times you do it, and when you are on try 60, they might nuke ya.

The best advise I took was given by Rich just before he battled Animal on the drums.

...... Band ? Who needs a band ?,.....Drums ? ,....Who needs drums and then did what I just explained in my post,...took out some sticks and literally played the stage on his way to the kit. ..........BR.

Don't listen to DrumBob's advice, it's ****ty. Just remember, no rules, so when you're playing the steering wheel or kitchen stove or empty box and water bottle,....if you can do it there, you will be able to put it on a kit later.
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Old 02-13-2020, 04:44 PM
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Don't listen to DrumBob's advice, it's ****ty. Just remember, no rules, so when you're playing the steering wheel or kitchen stove or empty box and water bottle,....if you can do it there, you will be able to put it on a kit later.
Oh, really? What's wrong with telling the man to play to his strengths? I think your rebuke is equally sh****, pal, and way out of line.
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Old 02-13-2020, 06:06 PM
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Ok guys, I didn't start this thread to cause tension, I took no offense to what DrumBob said, everyone has their opinion, it's all good.
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