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Old 05-08-2017, 04:28 PM
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Default Another version of amir cymbal

I just ordered another amir cymbal. This one shows it is a 20" cymbal but it appears to say "crash" on it. Never heard of an amir 20" crash???? Also, this just has "Zildjian" label with the "AMIR" stamp. So, there is the first gen with all cap AMIR then the big logo with lowercase amir. Then the 2nd gen with the small amir logo with the zildjian stamp. Of course there is the amir II. So this is another one.....hope it sounds good, lol
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Old 05-08-2017, 09:34 PM
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Default Re: Another version of amir cymbal

That's different.

So it has typical a Zildjian ink but the hard stamp is Amir?

Maybe it's a mistake? Mis-labeled in ink?

Very curious.
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Old 05-09-2017, 09:18 AM
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Default Re: Another version of amir cymbal

I found one one ebay like the one I am getting. It is labeled similar to an "A" series but has the amir stamp and on the underside has the amir logo with Zildjian. They must of had several variations of these early amir cymbals. My guess is that any of them that have the actual AMIR stamp are first gen. or variations of the the first gen and that the small "amir cymbals with the zildjian stamp are 2nd gen. And then of course the Amir II's were made.
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Old 05-15-2017, 11:57 AM
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Default Re: Another version of amir cymbal

Got the cymbal and it sounds great but is a 20" ride as I suspected. They had the wrong photo with the listing.
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Old 05-15-2017, 10:15 PM
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Default Re: Another version of amir cymbal

Cool! Glad you like it!
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Old 05-16-2017, 03:59 PM
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Default Re: Another version of amir cymbal

I also snagged a 16" and 18" crash of the same lot. These are labeled like "a" series cymbals but have the AMIR hard stamp on top and amir & Zildjian logos on the bottom.
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Old 05-16-2017, 06:02 PM
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Default Re: Another version of amir cymbal

I never gave these a fair shake back in the day. I was a die hard A man (boy then).

I have since broadened to other letters of the alphabet... but I still love Zildjian.
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Old 05-17-2017, 02:10 PM
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Default Re: Another version of amir cymbal

These sound good but have a different sound than my all cap AMIR cymbals. They must have made several changes in the short run of Amir cymbals. The ones I just got appear to have less hammering and a smaller hammering marks. Still like them though
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Old 05-17-2017, 03:31 PM
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Crazy. So many changes in a short time frame. That might be why they didn't last very long.

If you bought one, and then wanted to add another later, it would have a totally different character. That would certainly put me off...
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Old 05-21-2017, 09:23 PM
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Default Re: Another version of amir cymbal

I heard that they spent alot of money developing the Amirs and they also were pretty costly to make once that decided to stick with their last prototype. I wonder if they decided to sell alot of them instead of melt them down - in an effort to recoup some of the money they had sunk into the development. Hence, many variations of the Amir. Could be considered a bunch of prototypes perhaps?

I have never had/seen/played any of the earliest large letter block AMIR cymbals. I wonder if they all were better than the ones with the slammer logo.
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