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Old 07-11-2017, 04:48 PM
Ludwig-dude Ludwig-dude is offline
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Default Re: When is a cymbal classed as vintage?

To me, vintage cymbals mean mid-1960's and earlier. Most of the cymbals that ZIldjian offers to this day originated in the late 1960's/early 1970's....and pretty much still sound the same and I consider this to be the start of the modern sounding cymbal, same with Paiste.

I love how people try to search out "vintage" Paiste 2002 black label cymbals for that "Bonham sound" (and spend ridiculous amounts of $$ doing it too!), when you can buy the same cymbal today with the red label and it will sound exactly the same as those early ones.

Like others said above, even though early 90's would now QUALIFY as vintage as far as actual age, those are modern sounding and looking cymbals, period. Most of them can still be had new to this day.

My ultimate definition of a vintage cymbal? The A Zildjians from the mid-1950's that Joe Morello used with the Dave Brubeck Quartet when they recorded Time Out. I have yet to hear anything modern that sounds remotely like them, and those were some nice, sweet sounding cymbals, hand picked by Mr Avedis Zildjian himself for Joe Morello.
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Old 08-10-2017, 01:58 AM
Peedy Peedy is offline
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Default Re: When is a cymbal classed as vintage?

Even at a half century myself, my experience is limited. Still, my 1955ish A Zildjian HH top has hammering that's clearly random and done by hand to attain that certain sound its craftsman desired. It just plain sounds different, better and right. To me, that's vintage.
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Old 08-26-2017, 02:35 PM
human71 human71 is offline
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Default Re: When is a cymbal classed as vintage?

I think as others have stated here, the word "vintage" gets used a lot, and sometimes by people who either have no idea what they're talking about or selling, or someone who thinks they can make a quick profit.. I personally think vintage would be considered anything past 3 decades, so even early 80's can be classified as that. How would one advertise a Ludwig that was made in 1985 ? "Older Ludwig from 1985 for sale" ?, Or make it quick by saying "Vintage Ludwig Circa 1985" for sale..? The terms can be a little ambiguous at times when referring to a specific instrument and it's historical timeline..
I'm a child of the 70's/80's, so anything before 1985 is vintage to me.. But that's just me

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