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Old 09-02-2010, 03:46 PM
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Default UK drums info: http://rogerkelly.weebly.com

This is the site I am working on. It should answer 95% of questions.

Please let me have any notes, queries, observations etc.
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Old 09-02-2010, 04:45 PM
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Thanks for posting your website !!
I'd love to narrow down the date of my John Grey outfit.... but there are no dates of production in that section?
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Old 09-03-2010, 04:16 AM
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Hello boss

After the war Autocrats were
6 chunky lugs on the 12" international size
Single ply rings
Internal stamp
Vacant lugs on die cast hoops (like Ajax)
Light blue shade on badge

In 1956 they changed after shifting address
5 smaller lugs on the 12", similar shape to Olympic, pre-int
Filled lugs on die cast hoops (like Premier)
no stamp

In early 60's they changed again
Ply re-rings
Aluminium paint inside toms
Deeper blue on badge

The bass drum lugs changed in 1957 to have a 'waist', previously similar but the end lumps met closer to the middle.
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Old 09-03-2010, 08:54 AM
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I wish I had time this AM to send you some detailed pics of my outfit.
Or maybe when I get back home after Sunday, I will post them here.
I have a couple of cat scans like the ones at your site, but as you know, the details are a little tough to see.......
Could we continue this early next week ?
Thanks so much for your work on your site.... it's important to have these resources available for us less enlightened enthusiasts.
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Old 09-03-2010, 02:01 PM
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Okey dokey pig in a pokey job seekers.
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Old 09-03-2010, 03:13 PM
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I looked at your blue kit in the gallery pics. I would put it quite late, 1964-5. Have you noticed that the 12" hoops are different to the 16"?
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Old 09-03-2010, 09:08 PM
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I assume it's because the floor is an JG Autocrat instead of a Broadway, but I'm really not sure at all if that would be the reason.
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Old 09-04-2010, 10:12 AM
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Hi Roger, What an informative website. I recently picked up what I think is a Royal Ace 4", Has a Ludwig strainer on it instead of what should be the Flobeam i believe? Once I'm back home I'll post pics of said Premier plus a cpl of Star snares I recently picked up. Looking forward to hearing what you can tell me about the Premier...especially if you have info on the strainer set up.
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